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Traveling By Yourself to a Foreign Country
January 7, 2012
07:13
snowflake
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Wondering whether any woman here has traveled to a foreign country by yourself without support mechanisms such as being enrolled in a language program there or being part of a tour group….. basically, the type of thing Benny is doing right now in Taipei.  This is something that I'm considering doing though I have some safety concerns.  

January 7, 2012
11:06
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Sure, I have traveled by myself a lot in Europe and Asia. I meet many other women living or traveling alone in foreign countries, and I don't think it's really a big deal in most places. Don't do stupid things like inviting strangers to your place or wandering down dark alleys at night, obviously.  I once got followed around by a creepy guy in Malaysia, but that is really my only freaky experience as a woman overseas and stuff like that has happened to me at home in the U.S. too.  In quite a few places I have been (like when I lived in Taipei, for example) I have felt much safer than I do in America. Where do you want to go?

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January 7, 2012
22:27
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I'm looking at going to Taiwan or mainland China to do a self-styled Mandarin immersion.  I was originally thinking of staying in Taipei though a native speaker friend thinks Beijing is a better choice.  I'm an American born Chinese whose parents speak a variation of Cantonese.

January 8, 2012
17:20
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I lived in Taipei (well, Taipei county, now known as New Taipei City) for a little under two years, and I just moved to Beijing a few days ago.  Neither of those were completely without support, because I found a job in Taipei and I am currently crashing with a friend in Beijing until I find my own place.  I think you could go to either city without trouble, and as soon as you meet people (which you definitely have to do if you want to practice the language), then you are no longer totally on your own. 

 

Although I am finding that I like Beijing as a resident more than I did when I was here as a tourist, I still have to put in a good word for Taipei.  It is a great place to live, and a lot of little things that are frustrating for a westerner living in mainland China are better in Taiwan. And I can say with confidence that Taipei is quite a safe city.  I don't think Beijing is too bad either, but I haven't been here long. I think things like petty theft are probably more common. Of course, if you speak like Taiwanese people, mainlanders will see your accent as nonstandard. I personally think Taipei accents are much more attractive than Beijing accents, but mainland Chinese people don't generally share that opinion. :-)

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January 10, 2012
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My concern seems to have been solved.  I started asking native speaker friends for suggestions and someone offered to let me stay with her family in Beijing and Shanghai!  I was floored.

 

I'm older than the usual person learning Mandarin and so don't expect to be moving overseas….eg it's not a big deal if my accent is seen as non-standard.   I'm more concerned about interacting with the local Mandarin speaking community which is fairly diverse, enough so that many speakers from the mainland have adopted Taiwanese ways of saying certain things.  Another thing is that being American born with parents from Guangdong who left pre-1949, native speakers seem to be happy that I'm even bothering to learn Mandarin.  I guess this is where it should be mentioned that some mainlander friends have been giving pronunication/accent pointers.  And there have been times when Taiwanese "straighten out" their accent or find someone with a standard mainland accent to explain something. 

February 8, 2012
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I've done it many times in South America and Asia. I definitely think you should do it. It's tough at the beginning but once you get to know people I think travelling alone is the only way to go. I find I make much more of an effort to talk to other people when I'm alone, and that people aren't afraid to approach me either. BEst of luck!

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May 8, 2012
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I spoke no Mandarin when I first moved to Beijing 6 months ago, and I also came to study Mandarin. I had travelled before on my own once or twice, but I had decided to move to Beijing on my own after I finished my degree. 

 

I found an intensive study course, and I think as long as you have  a good feeling about the program and if you have someone who can recommend a program for you, then it should all be fine. Everywhere you travel now there is always of risk of being cheated or disappointed, but I think if you are smart about travelling alone then you will have a great time. 

 

At least if you enrol in a language program, you can at least have the security of being part of a group and meeting other people who are travelling and in the same position – taking the risk. cool

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