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Evaluate Language Level?
July 13, 2011
19:26
Biscotti
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Hi,

Does anyone know where I can self-evaluate my language skills to reasonable accuracy on the CEFR scale? I want to take a Spanish test at B2/C2, but I'm not sure what level I'm actually at.

I found this site, but it only seems to goes through the level descriptors. Would it be worth hiring a tutor for an hour to test my spoken level?

Thanks,

Daniel

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July 13, 2011
20:08
Martín Raúl Villalba
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July 13, 2011
20:23
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I know this doesn't work for a lot of people, but if you don't actually need the diplomas (to work or get into a university course) then you would get your money's worth out of aiming out of your comfort zone and going for the harder one.

I chose to do the C2 because it forced me to study for that level and aim for it – both in German and Spanish. I passed it in Spanish and I just missed a pass in German. In the latter case I have no regrets – doing an easier exam and passing it would have ultimately left me with a lower level because I would have had to work less hard. It also means if you do it a second time you'll be super prepared for it.

On the other hand I sat the French B2, and after passing it without breaking a sweat I felt quite disappointed that I didn't do the harder one.

But for me it's all or nothing, and I know other people would be plenty happy with a B2 Wink

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July 13, 2011
20:34
Biscotti
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@Martín Thanks! Just trying it now. In terms of grammar it's a good test.

@Benny OK. That's a good idea. I believe I'm somewhere between B1 and C1 and a certificate would serve to A) focus my study and force me to work harder and B) possibly get me into a Spanish Uni. The problem is that there is apparently no such thing as a C1 Spanish test which would be ideal. So I either take the easy option (nah!) or aim for dizzying heights. Smile What sort of questions do they ask in the spoken part of C2?

I've just found these documents which talk about how candidates in the exams responded to questions.

Edit: I've finally found a sample testLaugh

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July 14, 2011
03:06
Benny
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If I remember correctly, in comparison to my German C2 oral, the Spanish one was a less complex.

They showed me an image and asked me to speak about it for a few minutes, and then I think they gave me some debate and asked me to defend a particular view and then we discussed some other topic. The questions depend on where the conversation is going. I tried to make it as natural as possible and not to overthink things. But I'm sure they were phrasing questions in such a way as to test my various grammatical and vocabulary limits. Maybe not because these are already tested in other parts of the written exams. They weren't writing anything down so if you can keep a conversation flowing without awkward hesitations, you should be fine.

If you get lots of spoken practice you'll do fine in that part. Those in the hall who definitely did worse than me in the oral from what I saw in talking to them briefly clearly had their heads in books for the last few months while I was out dancing with Spaniards in clubs all night :)

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August 8, 2011
16:51
NKellyEmerald
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Benny, I do often wonder what exactly the difference between the C1 and C2 exams actually are? As I understand it, a C2 is native fluency (you could easily be mistaken for a native), while C1 is near-as-makes-no-difference native fluency, but not QUITE native fluency. Am I wrong? Or is there really only the teeniest difference between the two grades? Somewhat confusing! embarassed

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Is cainteoir dúchais Gaeilge mé. Same with English. Zacząłem uczyć się polskiego, y ahora, he dejado aprender el castellano.
August 9, 2011
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Then you misunderstand it. C2 is not that you would be mistaken for a native. Please read this for a full description. (Click through to Levels and then click to see the table).

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August 19, 2011
20:38
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You can Google "Dialang" to download a nifty program that can help you evaluate your level. It doesn't work all the time, though, as it's connected to a server that's anything but stable.

The last time I checked, I got mostly C2's in English.

The tests are really hard, though—I only managed to score A1-A2 in both German and Italian.

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August 21, 2011
01:42
NKellyEmerald
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It's an interesting idea, but can't get it to work for whatever reason… frown

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Is cainteoir dúchais Gaeilge mé. Same with English. Zacząłem uczyć się polskiego, y ahora, he dejado aprender el castellano.
August 21, 2011
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There's no app for that! (lol) I don't feel like dragging my laptop out from it's dusty hole right now, but this interests me! I will definitely check it out as I am always curious as to where I stand linguistically.

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August 21, 2011
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I have to warn you, though. The test is long, as it's divided into several parts. Moreover, chances are you'll mostly score B2's and C1's at most, at least the first time you take it. Being used to taking tests is half the battle. Oh, and I don't see why people would be interested in taking tests that aren't even graded by professionals. I mean, it's fun to assess your level in a language, but if you really want to know how good you are, you should just take it for real.

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August 21, 2011
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Chrystal G.
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If you don't see why people would be interested in taking tests not graded by professionals, then why add the suggestion and take the test yourself? Lol…just saying…

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August 21, 2011
04:09
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I took the test ages ago, and I was trying to be helpful. Gee, no need to be sarcastic…

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August 21, 2011
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Chrystal G.
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I'm not being sarcastic. I thought it was funny.

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