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06:44
February 14, 2012
OfflineGoals:
- Russian: Get back up to where I was when I got back from Russian study abroad (~2 years ago) by the end of the semester (May 2012).
- Spanish: Speak Spanish a few hours a week and watch movie(s) in Spanish at least once a week with my roommate.
Methods:
- Russian: Attend Russian Club coffee hour every week and speak ONLY Russian while there (hopefully encouraging current students to do so as well
). Get in touch with the Russian grad student community (I'm apparently an honorary member? So that's cool.) and try to get them to put up with my horrible Russian. - Spanish: As I said above, speak with my roommate and any contacts I make on this forum, and watch at least one movie in Spanish every week.
I'm focusing on Russian as my primary, because even though Spanish is a more popular language here to learn, I feel I have more resources for Russian (Russian Club, network of Russian grad students, lots of Russian music). Plus, I use it more often (again, weird for the area).
I argue that I'm not going against the "learn only one language at a time rule!" because really, I'm trying to pick them both back up. When I use either for a few sentences, they start rushing back, but within a day I'm back to super-rusty again, so I want to do more each day so I can remember them :)
PS– if you speak either of these languages and would like to help me out by chatting through Skype, I'd super appreciate it :)
16:17
February 14, 2012
Offline22:27
February 14, 2012
OfflineЯ шла на кофейний час с русском клубом, а почти все время говорила по-русски! :) Там познакомилась девушка из россии–из Питер, где я учала несколко летом назад! Мы обменялись номери телефона… а она хочет что я помогать её дети говорить болше по-русски!
(I went to coffee hour with Russian Club, and spoke Russian almost the whole time! :) There I met a woman from Russia–from Piter, where I studied a few summers ago! We exchanged phone numbers… and she wants me to help her children speak Russian more!)
I am VERY EXCITED but also super nervous to call her. I don't want to seem creepy but also I don't want to put off calling too long. AUGH. I am not good at social things but (despite needing to be manic from lack of sleep to put myself out there) I think this is going well. 


02:09
moderator
June 25, 2011
OfflineWelcome to the forums!
So you studied at St Petersburg? Are you willing to share more about this with us? It would really be interesting to learn more about your stay!
And have you sat any proficiency test for Russian yet?
Please have a look at the list of resources for learning Russian compiled here at the forums.
I recommend reading/listening to "У них что-то с головой, у этих русских" by Анна-Лена Лаурен.
It's a personal account of a Finnish journalist living in Moscow and presents Russian culture & customs, way of life, collectivism, gender roles, relationship with money, status and politics, corruption and double realities etc. as she sees it. Even though I wouldn't endorse 100% of her views, it really makes for an interesting read (and could provide you with some questions/input to talk about with your friends at the Russian Club!). Some advantages:
- Both ebook and audio book versions are available online. So I advise getting both versions and importing them to Learning with Texts (LWT).
- The chapters can be read and understood independently, so for instance you can read just the most interesting topics and skip everything you don't want to read.
- I found the audio book by far easier to understand than news broadcasts
- Since most topics pivot on everyday life, the vocabulary is both accessible to learners (and context helps understanding) and worth reviewing.
Here are some suggestions regarding your posts (keep in mind though that I'm not a native speaker…):
theoreticalcat said:
Говорила по-испански на Skype ночу, а все утро слушаю музыка по-русски. Хорошое начало! Сегодня будет кофейний час с русском клубом!
на Skype -> по Skype (like по телефо́ну)
ночу -> ночью
по-русски -> на русском [языке] (maybe the form you gave is ok, but this way seems more common to me)
музыка -> музыку
Хорошое -> Хорошее (please review the spelling rules, they're extremely helpful)
theoreticalcat said:
Там познакомилась девушка из россии–из Питер, где я учала несколко летом назад!
девушка -> с девушкой
из россии -> из России
из Питер -> из Питера
учала -> училась
несколко летом -> несколько лет
I hope this is helpful and not discouraging you:)
BTW, you're likely to get more detailed + trustworthy (i.e. native speaker reviewed) corrections if you submit your texts to http://www.lang-8.com
So have fun and success with your mission!
02:16
February 14, 2012
OfflineThanks for the corrections :) I haven't looked at Russian grammar in a few years, so I mostly guess right now. (I'm a grammar nut and am constantly twitching at errors in written English, so I definitely don't take offense or anything like that :) )
I studied with AIFS, and took classes in Russian Language, Russian Art History, and "Contemporary Russian Life" (which was kind of a political science class). I lived with a homestay host, who didn't speak any English (which was pretty helpful). It was 6 weeks program, and I had a grant from my uni, so most of the cost was covered by that. Seriously lucked out.
My uni only offers two years of Russian coursework (plus some "selected reading" and poli-sci classes), and I don't know of any standardized exams, so I haven't taken anything like that.
04:01
moderator
June 25, 2011
OfflineI can really relate to your story: I was at Moscow State university in 2008 and passed the TRKI-1 (the language requirement for foreign students), but in view of the lack of advanced courses I shifted my focus to other languagues after my return – to the detriment of my Russian skills. After 2 1/2 years without significant practice, I decided to prioritize Russian. So I've been concentrating Russian for four months now – and guess what?
While there are some intricacies of Russian Grammar I yet have to reacquaint myself with, I feel like my passive vocabulary, speaking and listening skills are even better now than when I left Moscow.
I reiterate my recommendation for LWT. Its reading interface makes looking up words (and marking them for later review) so easy that I do not only look up completely unknown vocab, but also look for alternative meanings of words I somehow recognize. It turned out that my main problem was not the lack of vocab, but the lack of precision, and LWT (plus lang8 corrections) helped a lot to iron out some errors due to blurred memory.
What Russian music are you listening to?
BTW, what about printing out the "40 групп русского рока" pic and use this as a prop for talking about Russian music with your Russian friends and acquaintances?
05:07
February 14, 2012
Offline16:23
July 5, 2011
OfflineHello!
I live in St. Petersburg too and I study Spanish :)
Good luck to you! feel free to write if you need an advice.
Native:
(russian)
Speak:
(english: upper intermediate)
Learn:
(spanish: B1)
Dream about:
(french: elementary),
(hebrew: zero) and
(polish: zero).
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