Join almost 1 million
monthly
readers!

Contact Me

Coaching and Consultation

Pronounciation/German | Specific language questions | Forum

A A A

Please consider registering
guest

Log In Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —

  

— Match —

   

— Forum Options —

    

Wildcard usage:
*  matches any number of characters    %  matches exactly one character

Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

Topic RSS Related Topics
Pronounciation/German
January 21, 2012
01:02
this_just_in
Toronto

Experienced Language Hacker
Forum Posts: 328
$0
Member Since:
August 9, 2011
Offline

Hi there I was wondering if it is possible to learn German Pronounciation before I even attempt learning the language (Rules, Grammar, Pronounciation etc). I am going to learn German in the near future but I don't have time to learn it right now. So I thought that it would be great I I learned all the Pronounciation rules to the point were I can read something properly out loud even though I won understand it. Anyways if you would like to comment on this or give me any advice on how to learn Pronounciation in German. Also by doing this I know that I will pick up some grammar as well which is just a bonus.
Thanks

Fluent- -Native English (Toronto) -French Mission/Learning- -Spanish  
January 21, 2012
02:08
Lingo

moderator
Forum Posts: 548
$1165
Member Since:
June 25, 2011
Offline

You'll find an explanation of the German phonetic system for native speakers of English at

http://www.german-grammar.de/grammar/content/grammar_1_5.htm#chapter3

Two online phrasebooks with audio:

http://www.goethe-verlag.com/book2/EN/ENDE/ENDE002.HTM

http://www.ielanguages.com/German.html

 

Edit: I'm moving this thread to the "Specific language questions" subforum. I hope you don't mind :)

Speaks:  German English French Portuguese Russian Spanish       Collecting resources for: Mandarin Italian     Abandoned: Latin

January 21, 2012
02:22
this_just_in
Toronto

Experienced Language Hacker
Forum Posts: 328
$0
Member Since:
August 9, 2011
Offline

Thanks. Earlier today I was reading some sentences that ha translations next to them and felt that it was useless because I for the life of me cant pronounce the language I was reading like it was English. What do most people do, Do they learn Pronounciation first or grammar or some other kind???

Fluent- -Native English (Toronto) -French Mission/Learning- -Spanish  
January 21, 2012
20:27
Lingo

moderator
Forum Posts: 548
$1165
Member Since:
June 25, 2011
Offline

Do you recall the Blog post on The “flow” of fluency: How to freestyle rap in a foreign language?

Idahosa Ness's conviction is that:

A more efficient approach is to focus first on mastering all the component sounds of your target language before studying the meanings associated with those sounds.

I concur that under ideal conditions one would to take the time to master the sound system first, but in fact my curiosity has always kept me from concentrating exclusively on phonetics.

One point to keep in mind is that bad pronunciation habits can be difficult to break after a while. However, the difficulty really depends on what you want to unlearn.  For instance, if a certain letter has only one pronunciation in your target language, and you finally get the hang of pronouncing it correctly, it's surprisingly easy to replace your old pronunciation with your new one in all contexts even after years of study. That is why, as frustrating as it might be not to instantly get to grips with, for instance, rolling your R like a native speaker, there is no need to get frustrated – at least as far as my experience goes.

The story is a quite different one in cases where you have been approximating different sounds with a single sound, though … So now matter how unnatural your first approximations of new phonemes might seem at the beginning, make a conscious effort to produce separate approximations for different phonemes.

Another mistake I found particularly difficult to unlearn is stressing particular words on the wrong syllable.

Since I do not intend to paraphrase all that has been said on this topic, I end this post referring you to the forums' link collection on pronunciation & phonetics.

Speaks:  German English French Portuguese Russian Spanish       Collecting resources for: Mandarin Italian     Abandoned: Latin

Forum Timezone: America/New_York

Most Users Ever Online: wp_m8bqz1_sferrorlog

Currently Online: ShadowMecc, jamesle0
63 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

Stephanie S: 642

Kevinpost: 499

Randybvain: 450

this_just_in: 328

Alasdair: 304

sipes23: 260

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 9

Members: 54393

Moderators: 2

Admins: 3

Forum Stats:

Groups: 5

Forums: 16

Topics: 3662

Posts: 19723

Newest Members: jamesle0, redgey05, cyberguigui, rodrigofavarete, Liquid_Ice, Broseph

Moderators: Lingo (289), anno (205)

Administrators: Benny (474), tweaky (0), AlexW (0)