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17:31
May 20, 2012
OfflineHello, I'm Matthew. When I read Benny's article about learning to read Thai I didn't believe him that I could learn to read a new alphabet in a few hours. However, last friday night I started to learn to read the Cyrillic alphabet to learn Russian. It's now Sunday afternoon and from studying about 2 hours friday night and 4 hours yesterday I can sound out words in Russian and have my pronunciation closely match examples!
This was made much easier by a couple of apps that i downloaded to my ipod. I tried a bunch of them and decided that three in particular were the ones that helped me learn the most.
1. Russian Alphabet. Hamdouchi Interactive. This is a free app. This app was really really really helpful! From my russian phrasebook i copied down the sounds that all of the Cyrillic letters and tried to sound out words from the phrasebook, but this was very hard as i did not know any of the letters yet. This app lets you practice russian words by giving you an example with a word with a letter that you are working on. With this example you get to listen to a speaker pronounce the letter and pronounce the word after you have tried to say it yourself.
2. Russian Alphabet(Lite). This is a free version of an app that I didn't buy because by this time I was already fairly good at recognizing the sounds of The Cyrillic alphabet. This app lets you practice the alphabet by letting you hear the sounds of each letter as many times as you want and then you can test yourself by having the app say random letters aloud and then you select the correct one.
3. 1000 Most Common Russian Words. Language Daily. This app costs 2.99 USD in the Itunes app store, but I would have easily paid 10 for this gem! It is the 1000 Most Common Russian Words, broken down into divisions of 100 and 25. It is searchable and you can add 100 words to your favorites list. Once I had gotten a basic grasp of the alphabet, this was very useful for trying to sound out words and then listening to a speaker to see if I was right. Very very very helpful!
I hope this helps somebody! Don't let anybody tell you Cyrillic is hard, because I'm a monolingual english speaker and I learned it over the weekend!
Also the phrasebook I've been using is the Berlitz Russian Phrase book & Dictionary.http://www.amazon.com/Russian-Phrase-Book-English-Edition/dp/9812683283/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337548839&sr=8-12
I don't particularly like it because most of it is about buying things and ordering food and only has a TINY TINY section of expressions that one uses when talking to people not in a retail setting.(Hopefully most of the time!) However it smells wonderful
. It is still helpful to me with my very very modest level of Russian. It's also a lot of good practice for sounding out words. What phrasebooks would you guys recommend that are more people friendly.?
I'd really like a textbook to work out of that would give me some basic grammar so I can start making sentences that aren't gibberish. Any suggestions? Preferably inexpensive, thanks very much!
Another thing is that I'm having a little bit of difficulty associating о with the ah sound. Some words it's pronounced differently than others, but even on words that I'm familiar with it's hard for me to get over not saying oh and saying ah instead. Anybody else have this?
04:11
July 8, 2011
OfflineHey!
Congratulations on learning the alphabet so quickly, hopefully that goes as a message to others that new alphabets really aren't that difficult at all
I do recommend you buy this textbook! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Colloquial-Russian-Complete-Course-Beginners/dp/0415469953/ref=dp_ob_title_bk it's what I used as a beginner and it was really helpful!
08:30
January 16, 2013
OfflineI would also agree in my experience except for Hindi. I found the Hindi syllabary an absolute nightmare.
It consists of 11 vowels and 40 consonants (plus 2 diacritics). There are two forms for each letter: a long form for vowel/consonant length, beginnings of words, and use in isolation, and a short form for all other cases.
The short forms are often the original symbol cut more or less in half. When one is joined in a diphthong or blend with another sound, the two symbols become written together as one, but there is no fast rule for how this is done, so you must simply memorize the many different possible combinations. I don't remember how many possibilities there are; I just remember trying to learn a seemingly interminable list of symbols during a bus trip from Cincinnati to Atlanta.
Later I studied the Punjabi script, and I found it far easier. Perhaps it helped that I had already studied Hindi, but although the syllabaries are related, Punjabi's is much simpler. It has two forms for each of its 10 vowels, but consonants remain more or less constant.
Does anyone else have experience or tips for learning Indian scripts?
I also found it strange that there seemed to be no fast rules for stroke direction or order; when I asked native speakers how to actually execute the writing of a letter, they just shrugged or told me it didn't matter. This is such a different mentality to what you find when learning to write English or Chinese, for example! I noticed that for myself it was easier to slash the top line at the end of writing a word, but native speakers seemed to slash letters individually as they went.
Any thoughts?
Stephanie
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