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Why Chinese is easy and you should learn it.
May 14, 2012
02:45
jamessmith
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Chinese is not an easy language. it is the one of the tough language in the world.

May 17, 2012
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jamessmith said
Chinese is not an easy language. it is the one of the tough language in the world.

Evidence? Have you learned Chinese?

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May 23, 2012
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I'm currently working on Chinese, Xiang Chinese if I'm understanding correctly, and a lot of what's been said applies there as well. The biggest challenge I've had with Chinese is that due to the travel I've had moving targets as every locale has it's own dialect and they can vary substantially.

 

It's not an insurmountable challenge, but it does require one to know the phrase to ask for them to speak in Mandarin. For me, it's more important to learn the language that people use around here as I have to deal with it day in and day out if I want to get past the point of communicating via charades and pictionary.

 

Chinese is the sort of language that goes extremely well with Benny's suggestions as the verbs aren't inflected, there aspect markers are few and like with most languages if you say the equivalent of I walk yesterday at noon, people will understand what you mean.

 

Characters are tricky, but if you apply some logic to it they aren't anywhere near as scary as I thought when I first got here. I see them everywhere and if you study the high frequency ones you'll probably find that you pick them up more quickly than you would imagine.

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May 24, 2012
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Chinese is not easy and not difficult just like other languages.

Stop arguing!

I'm a native Chinese and I've something to say (or protest) about my native language. I think the only thing learners have to overcome is the tonal pronunciation and it does take some time.

Here's why I think Chinese is not difficult:

-no tenses

-no complicated preposition (I have a hard time in English preposition)

-no much punctuation rules

-no gerund, participle

 

This's just my opinion. Don't say any language is difficult or easy!!! Do you believe in yinyang? Everything has two side! Just learn it or leave it!

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June 11, 2012
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Because of this thread I've actually learned a lot about Chinese I didn't know before, and it's definitely on my list now! A lot of stereotypes broken down. smile

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June 12, 2012
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Very interesting initial post! I am living in Beijing and studying intensive Chinese at the moment and hadn't even thought about some of the factors that have come up in this topic!

I do think Latin languages for non-native speakers are harder to learn, perhaps comprehension might come quicker since sounds might be similar to English for example, but to speak the language 'correctly' you require an extensive knowledge of aspects such as grammar, tenses, prepositions and to always be aware of the difference in male or female nouns. Not even Italians now a days speak 'proper' Italian. 

Chinese is a very rational and logic based language – it takes some time to adjust to the sounds and the pronunciation but with practicing as much as you can, you might be speaking it faster than you think. The point at which the language stops sounding so exotic I think is already a good sign!smile

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August 26, 2012
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@Alistair: loved your post and positive attitude. great encouragement for everyone!

I ve been studying Japanese for about four years now in Japan and am quite fluent, so I am thinking to take on Mandarin Chinese myself. Do you have any tips where to start?

@catlike typing: You wrote that you have been studying Japanese and are now learning Mandarin if I understood you correctly, how about the relation between Kanji and Hanzi (esp the simplified version) ? Do you have any advice on how to make use of the Kanji knowledge in Japanese in order to learn Hanzi?

I used the Heisig method to great success to learn the Kanji and I know there is a similar book for Hanzi but I was thinking that with knowing about 2000 Kanji there should be an easier way to acquire the Hanzi..?

Any tips are welcome!!

August 28, 2012
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Kotori said
@Alistair: loved your post and positive attitude. great encouragement for everyone!

I ve been studying Japanese for about four years now in Japan and am quite fluent, so I am thinking to take on Mandarin Chinese myself. Do you have any tips where to start?

@catlike typing: You wrote that you have been studying Japanese and are now learning Mandarin if I understood you correctly, how about the relation between Kanji and Hanzi (esp the simplified version) ? Do you have any advice on how to make use of the Kanji knowledge in Japanese in order to learn Hanzi?

I used the Heisig method to great success to learn the Kanji and I know there is a similar book for Hanzi but I was thinking that with knowing about 2000 Kanji there should be an easier way to acquire the Hanzi..?

Any tips are welcome!!

Hanzi, is just a matter of how much time you're willing to spend on it. I've found Anki to be helpful, but I've also found just transcribing from hanzi to pinyin to be quite helpful as well. Assuming you have either a printer with appropriate fonts or access to appropriate source material, that's probably a good bet. And really combining the two is probably a good idea.

I'm not really sure at this point how much effort is worthwhile in terms of memorizing the radicals. There's only about 214 of those at the moment, so that should be relatively quick to pick up, even if you're extremely lazy, that's still probably only a months worth of work along with the rest of the characters.

I'm not particularly literate at the moment, but I've found that I'm advancing far more quickly with the reading than my friends are, but at a bit of expense to the speaking.

I guess the other thing is looking at as many characters as possible, by the end of my 3 week intensive course I was starting to appreciate the aspects of the characters which I needed to pay attention to when comparing characters that are sometimes subtly different to the untrained eye.

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December 27, 2012
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Mandarin is Putonghua. I guess only 1/5 of chinese people are speaking mandarin. The rest have their own dialect. Just like my wife, she can't understand 100% precisely what my parents say, since she is from northern part of China and my hometown is located near the Yangtse River.

December 27, 2012
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I've been learning Chinese for a couple of months now, and so far I do tend to agree that Modern Standard Chinese is not that hard. I haven't really focused on learning characters too much, but I do have a decent understanding of their construction to know that it's not just hieroglyphs and random pictographs. By learning the radicals and meanings of basic characters, you quickly start to see the logic to all of it. However, I wouldn't say Chinese is an "easy" language. In all honesty, I do not think this label is appropriate. Learning a language is not an easy thing to do. And the difficulty of a language is a very subjective thing.

 

Anyhow, I think the greatest thing about Chinese is its lack of prepositions and verb tenses. Prepositions are really hard to learn for Asian ESL students, because they are so random in English. And verb tenses are also horrible. In English, you can use the present tense to talk about the future ("the plane leaves on Sunday), or the past to talk about the present ("I've got ten dollars"). In regards to tones in Chinese, they are not easy to nail down, but I believe they could be compared with stressed syllables in English. Basically every English word (or even part of speech) that has more than one syllable has a stressed one, and it's totally random. And vowel sounds are really inconsistent.

 

So is Chinese is an "easy" language? Well, not really, but it's probably not as hard as what most people would tend to believe.

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February 6, 2013
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I think the easiest way to learn Chinese is to take a Chinese course in China. This is one of those languages that no matter how much you stare at a page full of Chinese characters and phonetic translations, grammar explanations and exercises, you will not fully master the languge without being fully immersed in the environment in which the language is used. The best and most efficient way to pick up the language is to listen and repeat, listen and repeat, listen and repeat. If you are surrounded by Chinese all day, every day, then it is hard not to pick up something at least.

May 5, 2013
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Couldn't agree more! I actually bought a Kindle book on a rundown of Mandarin grammar and use it as light reading before bed. While English has hundreds of exceptions to each rule, Mandarin has very few – and they often make sense.

Also – TENSES. There are no tenses in Mandarin! Add a 了 here and a 就要 there – now you're talking about what you are going to do later.

Another thing I found was that while learning Mandarin, I haven't had to learn a lot of the English grammatical words that you often have to learn when picking up a new language. I can't think of any examples because I don't know them, haha. Things like Predicate Nouns and stuff. Thank goodness I didn't have to learn English as a second language – it's so hard to understand why we say things the way we do.

 

/rant!

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May 18, 2013
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Edmundyong said

中文是我的母语所以对我来说比别的语文还简单。还记得小时候背啦啦啦背得很痛苦!!!汉语拼音也不会很难,不会变来变去。各国的朋友们加油吧!*有志者事竟成~别放弃

* 有志者事竟成 (成语):If there's a will, there's a way!

有问题的话,可以问我!很乐意帮助你们!!! 

:D I just managed to understand the context of the first phrase! :D

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