Comments on: Having fun at Esperanto events http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/ Unconventional language hacking tips from Benny the Irish polyglot; travelling the world to learn languages to fluency and beyond! Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mi volas liberiĝi « La vivo de Kunar http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-3894 Mi volas liberiĝi « La vivo de Kunar Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:32:18 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-3894 [...] ankaŭ skribis en Esperanto kaj en la angla pri la IJK. Krome haveblas liaj multaj videoj, el kiuj li kunmetis la supran [...] [...] ankaŭ skribis en Esperanto kaj en la angla pri la IJK. Krome haveblas liaj multaj videoj, el kiuj li kunmetis la supran [...]

]]> By: Forvill http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-3348 Forvill Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:10:49 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-3348 Saluton! Mi tre placxas al vi pro ke vi lernadis Esperanton! Kara, vi estas tre lerta. Mi estas brazilano kaj scias ke oni learnas lingvojn nur pere de parolado. Oni ne devas ververe studi tro multe gramatikojn, sed anstatauj tion kun demandojn! Gxis revido el Kuritiba, en Brazilo! Saluton!
Mi tre placxas al vi pro ke vi lernadis Esperanton! Kara, vi estas tre lerta. Mi estas brazilano kaj scias ke oni learnas lingvojn nur pere de parolado. Oni ne devas ververe studi tro multe gramatikojn, sed anstatauj tion kun demandojn!
Gxis revido el Kuritiba, en Brazilo!

]]> By: Forvill http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-7719 Forvill Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:10:00 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-7719 Saluton! Mi tre placxas al vi pro ke vi lernadis Esperanton! Kara, vi estas tre lerta. Mi estas brazilano kaj scias ke oni learnas lingvojn nur pere de parolado. Oni ne devas ververe studi tro multe gramatikojn, sed anstatauj tion kun demandojn! Gxis revido el Kuritiba, en Brazilo! Saluton!
Mi tre placxas al vi pro ke vi lernadis Esperanton! Kara, vi estas tre lerta. Mi estas brazilano kaj scias ke oni learnas lingvojn nur pere de parolado. Oni ne devas ververe studi tro multe gramatikojn, sed anstatauj tion kun demandojn!
Gxis revido el Kuritiba, en Brazilo!

]]> By: benny http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1214 benny Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:37:46 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-1214 Thanks for all the great comments everyone :) It was great inspiration reading your stories and thoughts! Some time later, I'll write another post about how Esperanto can be really useful as a bridge to learning other languages. And for those curious, I'll be going to the first <a href="http://jes.pej.pl/" rel="nofollow">JES</a> event, in Zakopane Poland, for New Years ;) Thanks for all the great comments everyone :) It was great inspiration reading your stories and thoughts!
Some time later, I’ll write another post about how Esperanto can be really useful as a bridge to learning other languages. And for those curious, I’ll be going to the first JES event, in Zakopane Poland, for New Years ;)

]]> By: benny http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-7718 benny Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:37:00 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-7718 Thanks for all the great comments everyone :) It was great inspiration reading your stories and thoughts! Some time later, I'll write another post about how Esperanto can be really useful as a bridge to learning other languages. And for those curious, I'll be going to the first <a href="http://jes.pej.pl/" rel="nofollow">JES</a> event, in Zakopane Poland, for New Years ;) Thanks for all the great comments everyone :) It was great inspiration reading your stories and thoughts!
Some time later, I’ll write another post about how Esperanto can be really useful as a bridge to learning other languages. And for those curious, I’ll be going to the first JES event, in Zakopane Poland, for New Years ;)

]]> By: Wayne ILLES http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-760 Wayne ILLES Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:14:54 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-760 I learned Esperanto back in 1976 - WOW ! 12 hour experimental course in high school, and I had to beg my French teacher to let me participate. After taking the course I took an exam and won a free trip to Greece to the IJK and to the UK, and had a great time. Met a lot of good friends, some of whom I still communicate with on occasion, and there is a good international spirit. In 1984 I participated at SFSU in the Somera Esperanto-kurso, and learned a lot more. Again met some great people, and although I haven't been that active in the "movado" I still try to use the language and am proud to tell people that I speak it! I was much more active in the 70s and 80s and founded JEK - Junularo Esperantista Kanada and worked with the UEA, but as you get older priorities change, but I still love the language and what it stands for. I learned Esperanto back in 1976 – WOW ! 12 hour experimental course in high school, and I had to beg my French teacher to let me participate. After taking the course I took an exam and won a free trip to Greece to the IJK and to the UK, and had a great time. Met a lot of good friends, some of whom I still communicate with on occasion, and there is a good international spirit. In 1984 I participated at SFSU in the Somera Esperanto-kurso, and learned a lot more. Again met some great people, and although I haven’t been that active in the “movado” I still try to use the language and am proud to tell people that I speak it! I was much more active in the 70s and 80s and founded JEK – Junularo Esperantista Kanada and worked with the UEA, but as you get older priorities change, but I still love the language and what it stands for.

]]> By: Wayne ILLES http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-7717 Wayne ILLES Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:14:00 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-7717 I learned Esperanto back in 1976 - WOW ! 12 hour experimental course in high school, and I had to beg my French teacher to let me participate. After taking the course I took an exam and won a free trip to Greece to the IJK and to the UK, and had a great time. Met a lot of good friends, some of whom I still communicate with on occasion, and there is a good international spirit. In 1984 I participated at SFSU in the Somera Esperanto-kurso, and learned a lot more. Again met some great people, and although I haven't been that active in the "movado" I still try to use the language and am proud to tell people that I speak it! I was much more active in the 70s and 80s and founded JEK - Junularo Esperantista Kanada and worked with the UEA, but as you get older priorities change, but I still love the language and what it stands for. I learned Esperanto back in 1976 – WOW ! 12 hour experimental course in high school, and I had to beg my French teacher to let me participate. After taking the course I took an exam and won a free trip to Greece to the IJK and to the UK, and had a great time. Met a lot of good friends, some of whom I still communicate with on occasion, and there is a good international spirit. In 1984 I participated at SFSU in the Somera Esperanto-kurso, and learned a lot more. Again met some great people, and although I haven’t been that active in the “movado” I still try to use the language and am proud to tell people that I speak it! I was much more active in the 70s and 80s and founded JEK – Junularo Esperantista Kanada and worked with the UEA, but as you get older priorities change, but I still love the language and what it stands for.

]]> By: Kunar http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-684 Kunar Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:34:55 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-684 It might be interesting for you that most native speakers of Esperanto are not the result of an international relationship. If the parents have two different languages, they will most likely teach them first to their children. (Esperanto can be learned later, after all.) If the parent have the same native tongue, Esperanto is a much more obvious option. Source for this claim: <a href="http://www.helsinki.fi/%7Ejslindst/odo.html" rel="nofollow">FAQ of DENASK-L</a>, the organization of families which use Esperanto at home, in particular Jouko Lindstedt. It might be interesting for you that most native speakers of Esperanto are not the result of an international relationship. If the parents have two different languages, they will most likely teach them first to their children. (Esperanto can be learned later, after all.) If the parent have the same native tongue, Esperanto is a much more obvious option. Source for this claim: FAQ of DENASK-L, the organization of families which use Esperanto at home, in particular Jouko Lindstedt.

]]> By: Kunar http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-7716 Kunar Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:34:00 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-7716 It might be interesting for you that most native speakers of Esperanto are not the result of an international relationship. If the parents have two different languages, they will most likely teach them first to their children. (Esperanto can be learned later, after all.) If the parent have the same native tongue, Esperanto is a much more obvious option. Source for this claim: <a href="http://www.helsinki.fi/%7Ejslindst/odo.html" rel="nofollow">FAQ of DENASK-L</a>, the organization of families which use Esperanto at home, in particular Jouko Lindstedt. It might be interesting for you that most native speakers of Esperanto are not the result of an international relationship. If the parents have two different languages, they will most likely teach them first to their children. (Esperanto can be learned later, after all.) If the parent have the same native tongue, Esperanto is a much more obvious option. Source for this claim: FAQ of DENASK-L, the organization of families which use Esperanto at home, in particular Jouko Lindstedt.

]]> By: Brad http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-595 Brad Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:15:49 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-595 Hi I just read through all the comments and figured I would introduce myself too. I just picked up David Richardson's book "Learning and Using The International Language" a few days ago to start learning esperanto. I have taking a few years of Latin and Spanish but cannot use them actively, at all (especially Latin!). For some reason I typed in "Learn esperanto in one week" and this site came up. My primary reasons for learning it are for the community events, but I also want to see how it changes my thinking to have a natural command of another language. Johano, I came to the same conclusion on esperanto versus lojban. Better advantage some then disadvantage everyone. It's mostly for fun anyway. Scott, do you know if many people read your esperanto blog? I am curious. .-= Brad´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.cold-showers.com/alleviate-depression/" rel="nofollow">Alleviate Depression</a> =-. Hi I just read through all the comments and figured I would introduce myself too. I just picked up David Richardson’s book “Learning and Using The International Language” a few days ago to start learning esperanto. I have taking a few years of Latin and Spanish but cannot use them actively, at all (especially Latin!).

For some reason I typed in “Learn esperanto in one week” and this site came up. My primary reasons for learning it are for the community events, but I also want to see how it changes my thinking to have a natural command of another language.

Johano, I came to the same conclusion on esperanto versus lojban. Better advantage some then disadvantage everyone. It’s mostly for fun anyway.

Scott, do you know if many people read your esperanto blog? I am curious.
.-= Brad´s last blog ..Alleviate Depression =-.

]]> By: Brad http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-7715 Brad Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:15:00 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-7715 Hi I just read through all the comments and figured I would introduce myself too. I just picked up David Richardson's book "Learning and Using The International Language" a few days ago to start learning esperanto. I have taking a few years of Latin and Spanish but cannot use them actively, at all (especially Latin!). For some reason I typed in "Learn esperanto in one week" and this site came up. My primary reasons for learning it are for the community events, but I also want to see how it changes my thinking to have a natural command of another language. Johano, I came to the same conclusion on esperanto versus lojban. Better advantage some then disadvantage everyone. It's mostly for fun anyway. Scott, do you know if many people read your esperanto blog? I am curious. .-= Brad´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.cold-showers.com/alleviate-depression/" rel="nofollow">Alleviate Depression</a> =-. Hi I just read through all the comments and figured I would introduce myself too. I just picked up David Richardson’s book “Learning and Using The International Language” a few days ago to start learning esperanto. I have taking a few years of Latin and Spanish but cannot use them actively, at all (especially Latin!).

For some reason I typed in “Learn esperanto in one week” and this site came up. My primary reasons for learning it are for the community events, but I also want to see how it changes my thinking to have a natural command of another language.

Johano, I came to the same conclusion on esperanto versus lojban. Better advantage some then disadvantage everyone. It’s mostly for fun anyway.

Scott, do you know if many people read your esperanto blog? I am curious.
.-= Brad´s last blog ..Alleviate Depression =-.

]]> By: Johano http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-553 Johano Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:57:49 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-553 Ideologists might insist on a perfectly neutral language (like Solresol or Lojban), but the way I see it, it’s a lot harder for Westerners to learn those languages—as well as harder for non–IE language speakers. And Chinese learners of Esperanto won’t be able to use their vocabulary learnt from the IAL in learning English or another Western language.      The main advantage in Esperanto is its <b>flexibility</b> and <b>lack of restrictions</b> regarding idioms. Although Romance-langage speakers may have an advantage as far as how quickly the language is obtained, there is no real advantage once the language is learnt. It’s the idioms that affect control over a language. Take French and Italian, for instance. Although they are closely related, a native French speaker will never feel as at home with Italian as a native Italian, except in the case of long total immersion—which would have the same results as being immersed in a less-closely related language, such as German.)     Having a neutral language at the expense of just changing the vocabulary to equally unfamiliar roots does not make it any easier for the other nations. It only has a detrimental effect on the Westerners.     In short, I feel Esperanto has enough advantages as a world language over English to counterbalance any neutrality issues. No constructed language that overcomes the Eurocentrism of Esperanto is either (1) viable in terms of speaker base or (2) easy enough for all parties involved. Lojban is neutral in being equally difficult for anyone—I prefer a nonneutral language that’s easier for everyone. Ideologists might insist on a perfectly neutral language (like Solresol or Lojban), but the way I see it, it’s a lot harder for Westerners to learn those languages—as well as harder for non–IE language speakers. And Chinese learners of Esperanto won’t be able to use their vocabulary learnt from the IAL in learning English or another Western language.

     The main advantage in Esperanto is its flexibility and lack of restrictions regarding idioms. Although Romance-langage speakers may have an advantage as far as how quickly the language is obtained, there is no real advantage once the language is learnt. It’s the idioms that affect control over a language. Take French and Italian, for instance. Although they are closely related, a native French speaker will never feel as at home with Italian as a native Italian, except in the case of long total immersion—which would have the same results as being immersed in a less-closely related language, such as German.)

    Having a neutral language at the expense of just changing the vocabulary to equally unfamiliar roots does not make it any easier for the other nations. It only has a detrimental effect on the Westerners.

    In short, I feel Esperanto has enough advantages as a world language over English to counterbalance any neutrality issues. No constructed language that overcomes the Eurocentrism of Esperanto is either (1) viable in terms of speaker base or (2) easy enough for all parties involved. Lojban is neutral in being equally difficult for anyone—I prefer a nonneutral language that’s easier for everyone.

]]> By: Johano http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-7714 Johano Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:57:00 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-7714 Ideologists might insist on a perfectly neutral language (like Solresol or Lojban), but the way I see it, it’s a lot harder for Westerners to learn those languages—as well as harder for non–IE language speakers. And Chinese learners of Esperanto won’t be able to use their vocabulary learnt from the IAL in learning English or another Western language.      The main advantage in Esperanto is its <b>flexibility</b> and <b>lack of restrictions</b> regarding idioms. Although Romance-langage speakers may have an advantage as far as how quickly the language is obtained, there is no real advantage once the language is learnt. It’s the idioms that affect control over a language. Take French and Italian, for instance. Although they are closely related, a native French speaker will never feel as at home with Italian as a native Italian, except in the case of long total immersion—which would have the same results as being immersed in a less-closely related language, such as German.)     Having a neutral language at the expense of just changing the vocabulary to equally unfamiliar roots does not make it any easier for the other nations. It only has a detrimental effect on the Westerners.     In short, I feel Esperanto has enough advantages as a world language over English to counterbalance any neutrality issues. No constructed language that overcomes the Eurocentrism of Esperanto is either (1) viable in terms of speaker base or (2) easy enough for all parties involved. Lojban is neutral in being equally difficult for anyone—I prefer a nonneutral language that’s easier for everyone. Ideologists might insist on a perfectly neutral language (like Solresol or Lojban), but the way I see it, it’s a lot harder for Westerners to learn those languages—as well as harder for non–IE language speakers. And Chinese learners of Esperanto won’t be able to use their vocabulary learnt from the IAL in learning English or another Western language.

     The main advantage in Esperanto is its flexibility and lack of restrictions regarding idioms. Although Romance-langage speakers may have an advantage as far as how quickly the language is obtained, there is no real advantage once the language is learnt. It’s the idioms that affect control over a language. Take French and Italian, for instance. Although they are closely related, a native French speaker will never feel as at home with Italian as a native Italian, except in the case of long total immersion—which would have the same results as being immersed in a less-closely related language, such as German.)

    Having a neutral language at the expense of just changing the vocabulary to equally unfamiliar roots does not make it any easier for the other nations. It only has a detrimental effect on the Westerners.

    In short, I feel Esperanto has enough advantages as a world language over English to counterbalance any neutrality issues. No constructed language that overcomes the Eurocentrism of Esperanto is either (1) viable in terms of speaker base or (2) easy enough for all parties involved. Lojban is neutral in being equally difficult for anyone—I prefer a nonneutral language that’s easier for everyone.

]]> By: Cainntear http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-547 Cainntear Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:39:33 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-547 "without giving an unfair bias to any particular country/speaker as, for example, English currently does. [...] thanks to its similarities with other European languages and extremely easy grammar." Esperanto gives an unfair bias to most of Europe -- it's still not truly international. There have been more internationally neutral languages constructed than Esperanto, but even Esperantists don't study them.... “without giving an unfair bias to any particular country/speaker as, for example, English currently does. [...] thanks to its similarities with other European languages and extremely easy grammar.”

Esperanto gives an unfair bias to most of Europe — it’s still not truly international. There have been more internationally neutral languages constructed than Esperanto, but even Esperantists don’t study them….

]]> By: Cainntear http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-7713 Cainntear Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:39:00 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-7713 "without giving an unfair bias to any particular country/speaker as, for example, English currently does. [...] thanks to its similarities with other European languages and extremely easy grammar." Esperanto gives an unfair bias to most of Europe -- it's still not truly international. There have been more internationally neutral languages constructed than Esperanto, but even Esperantists don't study them.... “without giving an unfair bias to any particular country/speaker as, for example, English currently does. [...] thanks to its similarities with other European languages and extremely easy grammar.”

Esperanto gives an unfair bias to most of Europe — it’s still not truly international. There have been more internationally neutral languages constructed than Esperanto, but even Esperantists don’t study them….

]]> By: benny http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-470 benny Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:56:25 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-470 Just finished the week at IJK and it was spectacular! I have so many wonderful memories and met amazing people!! I love the Esperanto community :D One of the bests weeks ever for me :) I'll be making a video about it and posting it on this blog (although the purpose of showing the video will not actually be about Esperanto, you'll understand why soon!) It will also be on my <a href="http://www.irishpolyglot.com/eo" rel="nofollow">Esperanto blog</a> sooner than when I post it here. Just finished the week at IJK and it was spectacular! I have so many wonderful memories and met amazing people!! I love the Esperanto community :D One of the bests weeks ever for me :) I’ll be making a video about it and posting it on this blog (although the purpose of showing the video will not actually be about Esperanto, you’ll understand why soon!) It will also be on my Esperanto blog sooner than when I post it here.

]]> By: benny http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-7712 benny Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:56:00 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-7712 Just finished the week at IJK and it was spectacular! I have so many wonderful memories and met amazing people!! I love the Esperanto community :D One of the bests weeks ever for me :) I'll be making a video about it and posting it on this blog (although the purpose of showing the video will not actually be about Esperanto, you'll understand why soon!) It will also be on my <a href="http://www.irishpolyglot.com/eo" rel="nofollow">Esperanto blog</a> sooner than when I post it here. Just finished the week at IJK and it was spectacular! I have so many wonderful memories and met amazing people!! I love the Esperanto community :D One of the bests weeks ever for me :) I’ll be making a video about it and posting it on this blog (although the purpose of showing the video will not actually be about Esperanto, you’ll understand why soon!) It will also be on my Esperanto blog sooner than when I post it here.

]]> By: benny http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-469 benny Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:53:05 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-469 Excellent detailed comment!! Thanks Dale :D I intentionally didn't mention that advantage of Esperanto because I would like to write an entire post about it soon ;) Despite already speaking several languages, Esperanto has hugely helped me with my Czech! More on that soon! Looking forward to your comment on that post :) Excellent detailed comment!! Thanks Dale :D
I intentionally didn’t mention that advantage of Esperanto because I would like to write an entire post about it soon ;) Despite already speaking several languages, Esperanto has hugely helped me with my Czech! More on that soon! Looking forward to your comment on that post :)

]]> By: benny http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-7711 benny Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:53:00 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-7711 Excellent detailed comment!! Thanks Dale :D I intentionally didn't mention that advantage of Esperanto because I would like to write an entire post about it soon ;) Despite already speaking several languages, Esperanto has hugely helped me with my Czech! More on that soon! Looking forward to your comment on that post :) Excellent detailed comment!! Thanks Dale :D
I intentionally didn’t mention that advantage of Esperanto because I would like to write an entire post about it soon ;) Despite already speaking several languages, Esperanto has hugely helped me with my Czech! More on that soon! Looking forward to your comment on that post :)

]]> By: benny http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/comment-page-1/#comment-468 benny Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:50:48 +0000 http://www.fluentin3months.com/?p=274#comment-468 Excellent story!! It really shows how easy the language is :) Do a Google search to see if there are Esperanto groups in your city (or use sites such as <a href="http://www.meetup.com" rel="nofollow">meetup.com</a> ) for smaller meetings for more practise and check out the <a href="http://www.eszperanto.hu/eventoj/2009.htm" rel="nofollow">Esperanto calendar</a> to see if there is an international event that you may be able to visit! :) Excellent story!! It really shows how easy the language is :)
Do a Google search to see if there are Esperanto groups in your city (or use sites such as meetup.com ) for smaller meetings for more practise and check out the Esperanto calendar to see if there is an international event that you may be able to visit! :)

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