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First week in Istanbul, where I live & first (video) attempt at Turkish!

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Here it is! My first attempt at speaking Turkish (first minute of the video), followed by a look around where I live (in English).

Technically I arrived over a week and a half ago, but I’m calling this the end of my first week because I mostly just slept or was dreadfully tired my first days due to flight problems and didn’t achieve anything in terms of getting to know the city or the language in that time.

Due to lack of natural light in my apartment, I continue to sleep in very late (sunlight, rather than alarm clocks, are what has been waking me up for years) and be awake until very late as a consequence, so I may just have to accept this for the moment and work with it, even though I usually do my best work/study in the morning.

But there is no time to waste! I’ve studied some basic vocabulary, flicked through a grammar book (a more in-depth study will come in a few weeks when I have a decent flow of the language), and hit people with a few words. Ordering food and asking directions is never a problem, but I’m finally starting to get the basic gist of what some people say when they speak slowly to me about more general things. Paying attention to context and non-verbal cues help a lot.

My biggest challenge so far with the basics of the language is the reverse order of sentences requiring me to think backwards. I’ll get used to this quickly (Hungarian has something similar, although it’s even less familiar in Turkish) and it will become second nature, but in initial stages it does require some “rewiring”.

For example, in the video as I was speaking, I had to think not what you read in the subtitles but “Instabul-to welcome! One week-since more-than here-I-am…”

Just to be clear: I had a native translate the introduction for me in advance and learned it to recite for the camera. So I can’t speak spontaneously like that yet, but I hope to be able to by August.

However, I was genuinely thinking about what to say rather than reciting noise, and understand the structure of what I was saying. Simply preparing to make this video and learning it has pushed me that extra bit harder, which is a boost I needed from my initial slow start. I would have liked to have done several takes, but my camera battery was about to run out, so this really is my first ever attempt! :)

This pressure and distraction also meant that I didn’t point the camera anywhere interesting for that first minute – sorry about that!

Oh yes, and here are those cats from the video again – they sleep in this flower pot in front of my house every night, and there are a lot of them around this part of the city!

Settling in

As stated in the video, I live in a very central area, close to lots of nightlife and western comforts. Eating as a vegetarian has been no problem here. I’ve had very little culture shock here, and was surprised that the dress sense isn’t different at all in this area (very pretty Turkish girls in mini skirts can be seen everywhere in the evenings; something you certainly won’t hear me complaining about!)

I also managed to invite a cute Turkish waitress out for dinner with relative ease and walk hand-in-hand all the way there, so all my stereotypes about male-female interactions in this Muslim country are being destroyed. I imagine Istanbul is an exception in the country, but it’s great to see how secular it really is.

I have yet to get over to the Asian side – I will discover it with time, and will spend several full days there of course. I’ll also try to get out of Istanbul once in the next weeks to see another part of the country.

I’ve gone to some expat meetings and as expected many of them (living here much longer than me) haven’t bothered to learn the language yet. The local Couchsurfing meetings seem to be populated almost entirely by Turks, but many go there with hopes of practising English with foreigners, so I’ll be trying to branch off into different social groups as soon as I can.

There is a lot to discover considering how much of the city I have been restricting myself to, but I look forward to taking my time to get to know it, especially within a few weeks as my improved Turkish allows me to communicate better.

If you have any thoughts on what I’ve done so far in Istanbul or on my Turkish, let us know in the comments below!

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  • WC

    Oddly enough, just this week I found out that Turkish and Japanese are similar languages.  (I assume in grammar, etc, since I’m sure the vocabulary is quite different.)  Source: http://goo.gl/MKCfp

    I was reminded of that by your description of how you had to think about the sentence as you were speaking it, since that’s how I have to do Japanese.

    I think it’s quite interesting that the stereotypes aren’t true, especially since we hear so much about them.  Or at least, we did, for a while.  It’s been a year or so now since I’ve heard them, but prior to that, I heard them every week for a year or 2.

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      I really doubt they are similar languages! If they happen to both NOT have English/European language aspects to them, that doesn’t say much.
      But yes, perhaps this mission will help me later with my Japanese… don’t know.

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      I really doubt they are similar languages! If they happen to both NOT have English/European language aspects to them, that doesn’t say much.
      But yes, perhaps this mission will help me later with my Japanese… don’t know.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=640995866 Victor Berrjod

        Actually, they do have many similarities. As WC’s link mentions, there are some theories that say they both belong to the (controversial) Altaic language family, together with languages like Mongolian and Korean. However, there is no conclusive evidence for this language family, and some of the theories exclude some languages. It’s pretty interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_languages

        No matter if they’re related or not, getting used to that word order will certainly come in handy. :)

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=640995866 Victor Berrjod

        Actually, they do have many similarities. As WC’s link mentions, there are some theories that say they both belong to the (controversial) Altaic language family, together with languages like Mongolian and Korean. However, there is no conclusive evidence for this language family, and some of the theories exclude some languages. It’s pretty interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_languages

        No matter if they’re related or not, getting used to that word order will certainly come in handy. :)

        • Jeff Winchell

          I never thought about this before reading this thread, but I wasn’t frustrated about the very different word order (from English) in Japanese. However, German which is much more similar to English, has often frustrated me MORE (because of where various verbs go.)

          I think I do better with languages that are very different. Maybe also in part because my lowered expectations mean I don’t get so upset about problems.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001897225670 Jack Chakerian

        I think japanese and turkish grammar are VERY VERY similar….. its uncanny

        • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

          Huh – so I guess this mission WILL help me then! I just never imagined them to be similar, but I can only guess.

  • http://twitter.com/natalie_ Natalie

    I loved the kittens! If you weren’t traveling so much, you could adopt a few. :) (Ignoring the fact that it’s difficult to move internationally with animals…) It looks like you’re having a good time and I’m looking forward to more updates!

  • http://twitter.com/natalie_ Natalie

    I loved the kittens! If you weren’t traveling so much, you could adopt a few. :) (Ignoring the fact that it’s difficult to move internationally with animals…) It looks like you’re having a good time and I’m looking forward to more updates!

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      I took this photo of where they sleep with their mother in front of my house: http://yfrog.com/kiu1qyj #cutenessoverload

      • Jeff Winchell

        Thanks for the big pic. I might even convince a traveler or two to visit Istanbul because of this.

      • Agarhasan

        Hi Benny, we call this cats in turkish “Tekir” such as photo. Usually they are city cats and brownish.

      • Agarhasan

        Hi Benny, we call this cats in turkish “Tekir” such as photo. Usually they are city cats and brownish.

      • Agarhasan

        Hi Benny, we call this cats in turkish “Tekir” such as photo. Usually they are city cats and brownish.

      • Agarhasan

        Hi Benny, we call this cats in turkish “Tekir” such as photo. Usually they are city cats and brownish.

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      I took this photo of where they sleep with their mother in front of my house: http://yfrog.com/kiu1qyj #cutenessoverload

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      I took this photo of where they sleep with their mother in front of my house: http://yfrog.com/kiu1qyj #cutenessoverload

  • Justin

    Wow, it looks so beautiful there, how exciting! Sorry to hear it is getting off to kind of a rough start, but that is part of the wild wonderful experience of traveling, there is nothing like it!

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      I still haven’t adjusted to normal sleeping times, but I’ll try simply working with my new weird timetable instead of fighting it.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    You’ll love Istanbul or Rome – both are feline controlled :)

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks! :)

  • http://www.katiejurek.com/ Katie Jurek

    The kittens are indeed cute, but I quite like the actual place you’re staying in, especially the walls! It looks very roomy.

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      It’s an old-style apartment that has been refurbished to be modern. It’s cool!

  • Mackalpha

    Hey Benny,
    if this is what you can do in one week… your mission is already completed, bravo :D
    Turkish is easy to speak up to an intermediate level (a lot more than Hungarian), the tricky part is literature (like for most languages…).
    The language is very regular no exceptions (really !!) and extremely enchanting !

    I have a question:

    In one bad week, you are able to produce fluent speech.

    How can I get to that, arriving to fluency fast, being able to speak without thinking out too much about the words ?

    Right now, learning Bulgarian, sounds like a mix of Greek and Russian, LOL.

    Ciao.

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      As I said in the text, this is NOT how I can speak spontaneously – that text was prepared. My mission is long from over!! ;) In one week I can NOT produce fluent speech – I can recite text that I learned off. I didn’t need to “think out too much about the words” because I knew what I was going to say in advance. That’s how you can get to this level so quickly!! ;)

  • http://ideaschema.org/ Megan M.

    J’ai aimé cette vidéo! J’ai acheté votre Domptez Les Langues Etrangeres récemment et je l’adore, aussi. Je suis heureuse de voir que vous êtes bien — prosper au cours de votre aventure!

    I imagine my French will get better as I go… ;}

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      It definitely will! It’s already great!! Thanks for the support :D

  • http://ideaschema.org/ Megan M.

    J’ai aimé cette vidéo! J’ai acheté votre Domptez Les Langues Etrangeres récemment et je l’adore, aussi. Je suis heureuse de voir que vous êtes bien — prosper au cours de votre aventure!

    I imagine my French will get better as I go… ;}

  • Annette

    The cats are adorable!  And do you know what’s even more adorable?  You being all affectionate with them.  hehe :)   Thanks for the video, I really liked it!  All the best with your mission!

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Awww thanks :-P

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks, but it was scripted! Not quite the same as what I’m aiming for at the end of my time here ;)

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    I’ve been disappointed by my Langenscheidt phrasebook, so I think I’ll go back to Assimil’s “de poche” version :) Good choice! It’s been a huge help for me in other languages.

  • http://howlearnspanish.com/ Andrew

    Fantastic!  I’ve always thought Turkish girls were gorgeous, and as I said before I want to see some pictures of belly dancers!! :D

    How common are English-speaking Turks? I would think the majority of Turks, even in Istanbul, don’t speak English–is this correct?

    Cheers,
    Andrew

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      English is prominent enough among the young, but I’m meeting more people who struggle a lot with it. What I like is how enthusiastically they try though! I don’t usually meet my match like that ;)
      Luckily that’s not everyone and plenty of people are happy to help me with Turkish.

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      English is prominent enough among the young, but I’m meeting more people who struggle a lot with it. What I like is how enthusiastically they try though! I don’t usually meet my match like that ;)
      Luckily that’s not everyone and plenty of people are happy to help me with Turkish.

      • http://howlearnspanish.com/ Andrew

        Oh that’s awesome, I actually would think that would make it easier to get practice with the language because what you can do then is set up intercambio type things where you speak with them in English for half an hour in exchange for them speaking with you in Turkish for half an hour, etc.

        • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

          I almost always recommend people go for intercambios. However, in my tight 2 month limit I simply avoiding speaking English entirely, so that’s not so great for me. I just have to convince them that my Turkish is worth listening to and then they don’t need anything else in exchange ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      English is prominent enough among the young, but I’m meeting more people who struggle a lot with it. What I like is how enthusiastically they try though! I don’t usually meet my match like that ;)
      Luckily that’s not everyone and plenty of people are happy to help me with Turkish.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Great advice!! Thanks :)

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

      Yes, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Kadıköy over the coming weeks, don’t worry ;)

  • Steve

    Hi Jan,

    I am in very much the same situation as you! Except that I’m a British guy married to a Turkish woman :) I’ve been learning very much in fits and starts in exactly the same (less than productive) was as you and am also very shy about speaking. It’s intimidating when your partner is an expert in something that you’re barely starting out in!

    If you fancy exchanging emails with someone in the exact same position, I think we could help eachother :) If not, I won’t be offended; there are lots of weirdos on the internet.

    My address is steve AT offend DOT me DOT uk

    Oh and Benny, visit Kadıköy! That’s my favourite part of Istanbul.  It’s best reached by taking a ferry from Beşiktaş which is a short and enjoyable walk past the stadium from where you’re staying.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks – I look forward to travelling to at least one other Turkish city, as well as delving into the Asian side of Istanbul more.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks – I look forward to travelling to at least one other Turkish city, as well as delving into the Asian side of Istanbul more.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks – I look forward to travelling to at least one other Turkish city, as well as delving into the Asian side of Istanbul more.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks – I look forward to travelling to at least one other Turkish city, as well as delving into the Asian side of Istanbul more.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks – I look forward to travelling to at least one other Turkish city, as well as delving into the Asian side of Istanbul more.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks – I look forward to travelling to at least one other Turkish city, as well as delving into the Asian side of Istanbul more.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks – I look forward to travelling to at least one other Turkish city, as well as delving into the Asian side of Istanbul more.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks – I look forward to travelling to at least one other Turkish city, as well as delving into the Asian side of Istanbul more.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks – I look forward to travelling to at least one other Turkish city, as well as delving into the Asian side of Istanbul more.

  • http://twitter.com/GGArchive GG Archive

    Tu señor eres impresionante, sigue asi!

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    I think you mean SOV. This is how it works in Turkish, not SVO. Your Wikipedia link confirms it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/izmirizm Yalcin Aydin

    “Gayet iyi:)”
    I’ve found your site today and it’s pretty interesting, thanks for the info.

  • http://twitter.com/mithatcan Mithat Perkoz

    Benny sana yardımcı olmak için Türkçe konuşacağım. I’m quite sure that you’ll understand :)

    Bence oldukça iyi Türkçe konuşuyorsun, insanlarla konuşmaya devam et, sana yardımcı olacaklar emin ol :)
    Vaktin olursa Ege yöresini veya Güneydoğu Anadolu bölgesini görmeni tavsiye ederim. İstanbul’da 2 ayda sıkılmazsın fakat daha değişik yerler görmen Türkçe’ni ilerletecektir :)
    Türkçe öğreniminde kolaylıklar dilerim.
    Hoşçakal :)

    Mithat