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Just 2 weeks learning Esperanto can get you months ahead in your target language

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Whenever I meet new people and try to help them with their language learning missions, when they hear that I have already learned to speak a few languages and ask me to list them, the one that always gets their attention the most is Esperanto.

Most people have never even heard of it, but occasionally they say that they thought it was dead and that maybe I learned it as an alternative to Klingon or Na’vi just for the hell of it, since “nobody actually speaks it”.

Well, today I am going to make a suggestion that I included as one of many other language hacks in the Language Hacking Guide, and it has nothing to do with saving the world, or peace and love between all races with a universal language. I don’t learn Esperanto to aim for a better world some day – to me it has very practical uses right now to me and to many learners.

Even if it had no speakers, it would still be very useful

In fact, let’s pretend that nobody actually speaks Esperanto.

In this hypothetical universe, there is just material online to learn it and one guy on Skype in Yemen who is willing to chat to you in it. Even in this situation, I still say that if you aren’t speaking your target language yet (Spanish, Japanese, Russian or whatever it may be), then devoting two weeks to Esperanto can get you months ahead in that language.

If you already speak several languages then this particular language hack will be lost on you, but for those of you still behind the “barrier” of actually conversing, this may be just what the doctor ordered!

One big criticism I have for many traditional learning systems is the obsession with studying (a.k.a. input if you like thinking of humans as the same as robots) because they see a language as nothing more than pure information and totally ignore the social aspect of it. You need to get over the barrier of feeling embarrassed, and simply not used to a foreign language. This is the strangest part of learning any language.

“Skip” the hardest first foreign language bit

Why should you learn Esperanto? Because it’s easy.

I don’t actually like using the word “hard” with languages – I think it’s counterproductive to randomly assign negativity, which will do absolutely nothing to actually help you learn a language. But anyway, if you are curious (I do get asked this a lit) the “hardest” language I ever learned and ever will learn was… Spanish. Yep – no matter what language you suggest in the world, Spanish will always have been the hardest one for me.

Not because of the subjunctive, or tables of conjugations or any of the other things that pessimists drool over when they get ready to compile a list of reasons to discourage people. It’s because it was the first foreign language that I ever tried to speak. It doesn’t matter about the grammar and vocabulary so much when you just are not used to any foreign language coming out of your mouth. This barrier is a tough nut to crack and extra work of needing to worry about conjugations, cases, word genders etc. are generally going to add to this pressure.

The reason I’m suggesting Esperanto for 2 weeks is because it is very easy (no word genders, no conjugation, perfectly phonetic, no random rule exceptions, easy consistent vocabulary). If you are truly devoted and have a lot less to randomly whine about, then in just a couple of weeks you can focus entirely on communication with way less study. You will recognise thousands of words already since most of the vocabulary is based on European languages like French, but there is some English in there too! For example, Yes is pronounced exactly the same (spelled as “jes”).

If you are fully devoted for two weeks, and in the second week do genuinely try to speak it in a chatroom or on Skype, you will be forced to use what you have learned, but you won’t have to think too hard to do it. If you are dedicated enough (and use some hacks to make sure you are speaking quicker) you could do this in a very short time. You will get over this speaking barrier and be communicating in a foreign language! You would need more than 2 weeks to speak fluently, but you can indeed speak it and get by in this time.

And then something amazing happens – that target language, the one you really want to speak (for moving to France, trying to rediscover your Chinese roots etc.) suddenly becomes your second foreign language! You already “speak” one, so you have gained this confidence that seemed so unobtainable before, and now you will have that extra edge where you actually want it.

The polyglot edge

It won’t surprise you to hear that the more languages you learn, the easier it is to learn the next one. If both me and a monoglot decide to take on language x at the same time, I’ll very likely learn it quicker than he will. This isn’t because I’m smarter, or because of mysterious reconfigurations within my brain. It’s because of techniques, familiarity and confidence. As far as I’m concerned these 3 aspects are the only things that separate me from people still speaking just one language as far as taking on a new language is concerned.

There are plenty of techniques, and familiarity plays a big part too, but the confidence to actually speak will hold you back if you don’t have it, even if you know a language inside out. If you can use Esperanto to hack your way towards this confidence quicker, then you will have it for your “second” foreign language; the priority language you definitely want to speak. You will know that you can communicate in a foreign language. You’ll have the polyglot edge.

This isn’t just my opinion. Several studies have shown that learning Esperanto first will give you that edge. For example, students learned Esperanto for six months and then French for a year and a half. Another control group studied just French for two years – so they had several months more studies in that language. And yet the first group that got “side-tracked” to learn Esperanto had significantly better command of French.

They needed to do it over the long term since this would have been done using the academic approach. As a language hacker, you would only need two weeks (maybe more if you can’t be very committed).

This post isn’t to convince the world that we all need a universal language. The point is that learning a language that is easy will get you miles ahead. Your actual target language will likely have some tricky things to learn that you will have to master if you are to speak it confidently. But simple confidence in itself won’t come to you unless you start speaking a language. It’s a vicious circle.

One way I get out of this circle myself is to speak as often as possible as early as possible. But it’s easy for me to say this because I have done it already before. Once you do it once, every time after that becomes so much easier.

So why not make the “first” time you do it all about communication with almost no technical grammar etc. to worry about so you can get over this barrier once and for all?

Oh yeah, the language itself is cool

Esperanto fits the bill because it was designed to be easy and material to learn it is very easy to come across. As well as this there are a lot of speakers who will be happy to help you, both online and in lots of places in person.

As I said at the start, even if there was just one guy to talk to and the material available to study, it would still work for the purposes described here. What is actually true is that there are millions of Esperanto speakers all over the world. I’ve met up with them many times and had lots of fun (click the last link to see me trying out my pathetic skills as an actor in the language).

I’m not looking for an ideal utopian society when I go to these week-long events where everything (karaokes, dinner menus, games, tours…) is in Esperanto. I go to find people I get along with really well, since there are a surprisingly large number of other polyglots, travellers, vegetarians, Linux users, non-drinkers and many open-minded people there.

There are lots of large events all around the world, or you can just find some speakers in your city to practise with, although you can already do a lot online. The Internet has plenty of Esperanto content; the Esperanto Wikipedia has more than 130,000 entries (more than Arabic). You can find an active forum and a fantastic free learning resource (with a great language learning course, a dictionary, a chat room etc.) on Lernu.net (the entire website is available in several languages).

The language sounds pleasant to listen to and has lots of easy to recognise words similar to English, French/Spanish/Italian and German. In fact, the content (not just the confidence) of Esperanto will help you in learning a lot of European languages! When I tried to learn German in school, the Accusative seemed very complicated. Even the name sounds like you are blaming someone. The accusative exists in Esperanto (it’s one of the very few bits of grammar, there only so you can have any word order you like), but its use is a lot clearer. Getting used to it there meant that it wasn’t so weird to add an -n in German either.

When I tried to learn Czech, the writing system of having “hats” on a letter like s and c didn’t seem strange at all, since Esperanto does this to make the language phonetic (s = s but ŝ = sh for example).

Even if you are learning a non-European language, the confidence you would gain in being able to communicate would bring you miles ahead. As I said, this lack of confidence in speaking a language is one of the main reasons people simply don’t.

If you can start communicating basically in one language for the investment of just a few weeks, then you wouldn’t have to wait the months you would have to otherwise with your target language. I think Esperanto is worth checking out beyond that, but even if all you are interested in is reaching spoken confidence in your actual target language – this small investment could make a big difference.

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So what do you think? If you have not been able to speak your target language yet, do you think that this injection of confidence of becoming multilingual in a short time will make a difference? Would you care to continue with Esperanto after that to make sure you were communicating much better? Think Esperanto sounds interesting enough to check out?

Let me know in the comments!

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  • http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~te233/contact Tom

    Esperanto's great. I'd also recommend Ido, Novial and Interlingua, which are also great but have many fewer speakers than Esperanto.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    These languages may technically be slightly easier, but Esperanto is much more widely spoken so it fits the purposes of this post better since the learner will find it easier to practise speaking online and get over the spoken barrier.

    • http://twitter.com/zooplah Keith Bowes

      There’s no way that Interlingua is easier than Esperanto (three conjugations, three cases, letters whose sounds differ by their position in the word, etc.). I’d say that Ido isn’t either; it doesn’t have the accusative or noun/adjective agreement, but its vocabulary is *much* bigger. I don’t know much about Novial.

      • Veni Vidi Vici

        Hmmm Interlingua sounds a little like Romanian which also has 3 cases or even a simplified Latin which I believe has 6 cases.
        But Esperanto’s popularity is also a great selling point.

    • Jan Zvoník

      KIu cxi tie parolas en Esperanto?

      • Michael Jones

        En la mondon venis nova sento.

  • Fakename

    “Several studies have shown that learning Esperanto first will give you that edge. For example, students learned Esperanto for six months and then French for a year and a half. Another control group studied just French for two years – so they had several months more studies in that language. And yet the first group that got “side-tracked” to learn Esperanto had significantly better command of French.”

    I don't think the results of those studies really support your point in this article.

    In the particular study you mention, the benefit was only for the lower-graded set of students (because it helped to motivate them?). In the higher-grading set, the time spent studying Esperanto led to them knowing less French vocabulary than they otherwise would, and made them mix in Esperanto when speaking French.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Escomu/100001842925466 Alex Escomu

      I translate from an article in the Spanish Wikipedia:

      In accordance with the results,
      De acuerdo con/a los resultados,

      the preliminary study of Esperanto left a 25% improvement for learning Russian,
      el estudio preliminar del esperanto dejó un 25% de mejora para el aprendizaje del ruso,

      30% for German, 40% for English and 50% for French.
      30% para el alemán, 40% para el inglés y 50% para el francés.

      In other respects, the students who received preparatory teaching…
      En otros aspectos, los estudiantes que recibieron la enseñanza preparatoria…

      got significantly higher results…
      obtuvieron resultados notablemente superiores

      than the others, who did not receive similar introduction to the study of foreign languages.
      que los otros, que no recibieron la introducción análoga al estudio de lenguas extranjeras.

      This system of preparatory introduction was put into practice in Germany…
      Este sistema de introducción preparatoria fue puesto en práctica en Alemania…

      with a large number of students,
      con un gran número de estudiantes,

      but with the sole purpose of facilitating the learning of English.
      pero con el único propósito de facilitar el aprendizaje del inglés.

      The results showed that after two years of language orientation to the international language,
      Los resultados mostraron que tras dos años de orientación lingüística con la lengua internacional,

      the benefit was around 30%.
      la ventaja fue de alrededor de un 30%.

      SOURCE: es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valor_propedéutico_del_esperanto

  • Kaja

    Saluton!

    I’m an occasional reader. Esperanto was my second language and I’m glad I made that choice. Thanks for the post. :)

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    What's the use in having more French vocabulary if they have less of an actual command to use the language?

    I think those studies go perfectly with the point of the article regarding abilities in one language helping another. Being too focused on the content of the language will not help you to actually speak it if you don't put yourself out there and learn to feel the language. Doing this even in an unrelated language can help immensely.

    As well as that your argument doesn't work since Esperanto vocabulary is very similar to French, so it can indeed help you with the pure content aspect of French. The vast majority of Esperanto vocabulary comes from French (differing usually only by adding an -o for example). Although that isn't the basis of my argument, and it works just as well for Chinese/Japenese etc. where one thing they all have in common is being a language that the learner feels uncomfortable to speak due to lack of experience in doing it before for any foreign language.

    I don't know what you mean by higher-grading. Most academic systems are huge wastes of time for practical command over a language, low or high grade. If someone already speaks a foreign language then my arguments here don't apply, since they already have confidence to speak it.

    • Terra Magnum Imperium

      Did not know that Esperanto was so close to French, have to check it out. Thanks…

  • http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/ Randy (@Yearlyglot)

    I presume that you thought I'd dislike this post due to my negative experience and impression of Esperanto, but that's actually not the case.

    > “If you already speak several languages then this particular language hack will be lost on you”

    There's the disclaimer, no? I already speak several languages. And I think that is probably the biggest reason for my own dissatisfaction in Esperanto. But I can see how this easy constructed language could give a neophite language learner the confidence or momentum to learn a “real” language.

    And since you've presented Esperanto in a mostly realistic light, focusing mostly on using it to help learn something else, I'd say that I mostly agree with you! :)

    I do think it would serve your readers well to point out the difference in the way Esperanto is perceived and used in Europe compared to the United States. It seems as if everyone who defends Esperanto and claims to have met tons of cool people live in Europe, while most of us who live in the US find it to be useless, frivolous, and even cause for derision.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks Randy, glad you mostly agree!

    I don't like your “real language” reference though, but people have already argued with you on your blog so lets try not to open that Pandora's box here (sadly, I imagine someone else will anyway!) The links to videos I provided show how it's real to me.

    I don't think it would serve my readers well in the slightest bit to discourage them if they don't live in Europe. How can arguing perceptions be useful at all for this post? As I said, they can practise over Skype and on Lernu. For the purposes of this 2 week challenge they don't need to meet up in person with someone.

    Arguing Esperanto's worldwide usefulness is not the intention of this article. It has genuinely helped me a lot with my German and Czech for example. I'm trying to be as pragmatic as possible, but the last paragraph shows that I do have other motivations for learning it besides those suggested by the core of the article.

  • http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/ Randy (@Yearlyglot)

    The “real language” thing was absolutely an attempt to stir the pot! Just like your tweet to me. :)

    But all fun aside, I do think the key is probably in whether or not Esperanto is one of the first languages you learn. I totally see how the experience would be different.

    As a slightly different suggestion, though, wouldn't most of the advice in this Language Hack be just as applicable if you applied it to a real, natural language… presuming it was also an easy one capable of giving you the same confidence boost?

    It seems to me that Tagalog was my Esperanto. Even though I was learning Spanish in school, I can imagine that it was actually speaking Tagalog with my Fillipino friend that gave me the confidence with languages. And Tagalog is super easy — no conjugations, no genders, no cases, no articles, not even a plural form for nouns! And as a bonus, there are a lot of Spanish influences on the language. But most important for me is the fact that I can recognize a Tagalog-speaking person on the street… or go to their country and be immersed… two things that can't happen in Esperanto. (At least not for more than one week per year!)

    • http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/ Tony Mechelynck

       Chronologically, Esperanto was between the fifth and eigth language I learnt (depending on whether you count Russian, which I still cannot speak without a dictionary, and classical Latin and Greek, which I never could speak fluently despite learning them six hours a week each for respectively six and two years). But nowadays it is one of the only three languages that I speak with real ease (besides English and my native French, and getting fluent in English took me incredibly more work and dedication than in Esperanto), and if I had to do it again I’d do it, and earlier (because Esperanto speakers are fun people to be with). I rest my case.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Yes these suggestions would work just as well for any equally easy language. I'd also recommend Tagalog or Swahili etc. for these purposes. The whole article works just as well. Although Esperanto would be easier for Europeans than those languages simply because it was designed to be.

    I can't go to a specific country for Esperanto, but I've immersed myself in the language several times. Your last point is not relevant to the purposes of the article! If you want to argue real languages for real countries etc. then that's fine (although perhaps an article that invites that would be better for stirring the pot, rather than one that simply brings up the dreaded E word… :P )

    You can immerse yourself in Esperanto events. They are actually easier to get to than the Philippines for many people, even Americans ;) I've randomly run into more Esperanto speakers than I have Filipinos in my lifetime, although I imagine if you are playing a numbers game then Filipinos are are better target when living in the states.

    • http://www.learnlangs.com Judith

      Swahili has a very complicated grammar, with just about every part of the sentence (including verbs) having to match nouns, and lots of different verb tenses / aspects. I can’t weigh in on Tagalog. Anyway, I learned Esperanto after I already knew English, Latin and a bit of French, and I still find that it helped me tackle Chinese and Modern Greek.

  • Brian_Barker

    As far as a practical international language is concerned I think we need Esperanto, rather than an untried project.

    Indeed Esperanto has now ceased to be a “hobby” language.

  • http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/ Randy (@Yearlyglot)

    Right… which goes back to my point about the importance of considering where you live when you make this choice. :)

  • juddski

    Don't believe the hype. I've tried learning Esperanto many times but it is really hard. People who have a passion and an aptitude for language learning find such things easy, but not everyone is like that. People who have a passion for sport and exercise find going to the gym easy and enjoyable, but many people won't go near a gym or any other form of exercise because they find it hard.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    When I was 20 years old I “didn't have a passion and an aptitude for language learning”, so I guess I should have just accepted that and never tried, right? :)

  • Juddski

    Thing is, I already speak the international language and we are conversing in it. I don't need to learn anything else.

    • Jemma Clark

      Whilst I would personally rather learn the native language of whatever country I want to spend time in than learn an international auxiliary language, I am rather fond of the idea of IALs.

      I would hazard to say that you have completely missed the point of this post and the idea of “the international language”.

      Firstly the fact you are on a site that advertises language fluency tips and state that you do not want to learn a language is strange to me. What are you doing here then? Go find a website that interests you! And if this website does interest you then don’t be so negative. The whole point of this site is to help overcome the perceived barriers we have when we think “Nope, I don’t get it. I’m not good at languages.” I’ve felt many times while trying to learn Finnish that I am no good at learning. That’s not true at all, the only difficulty lies in the fact that I’ve never tried to learn anything like Finnish before.

      Secondly, Esperanto was designed as a way to remove the perceived superiority of the native speaker vs. the foreigner (Which will never be a feature of the English language) but that’s not the point of this article! The point is that Esperanto was a language that was made to be simple to learn, you still need to study and practice but it will take a lot less time to learn than, say, German with its difficult grammar and alien sounding (to the native English speaker’s ear) words. If you learn Esperanto then you have successfully equipped yourself with the tools and the method to go out and learn a new language. Once you have spent the time to learn these skills the Esperanto isn’t important. You need never touch it again if you don’t want to (Although I personally think it’s a beautiful language).

      English is not an international language in the truest sense but for the purposes of this article it doesn’t matter. If Na’vi was as simple for speaker of Indo-European languages as Esperanto then that would be a good language to learn instead for practice and I highly doubt you will find a single native Avatar on Earth.

    • Michael Jones

      Even if everyone in the world spoke English, and spoke it
      fluently, there would still be a need for another language. Every language is
      like a blanket with holes in it. The holes, however, are in different places
      for different languages. Therefore, the solution is simple: have an extra
      language on hand to fill the holes of the primary language when needed.
      Traditionally, French has served this role for English (to say nothing of the
      many expression from Latin used in English). For example, the plural of “Mr.”
      does not exist in English. When we need the plural, we simple use the French
      word for it: Messieurs. Thus, any “English only” policy would be
      self-defeating. One of the uses of Esperanto could be that of plugging the
      holes in whatever ethnic language is the primary one of a given milieu.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Wow, are you on the wrong blog if you think English is the answer to all of life's problems! haha You sound like who I was talking about in this post.

    • David

      I do find it ironic that you say that, but 95% internet output (detected by me, I haven’t scoured everything you’ve posted), is in English!!!! I would say that if you want to promote Esperanto (or German, French, Italian): Post in them!

      • Michael Jones

        If he posted in Esperanto, he would be preaching to the choir. A large part of his target audience is philistines like you.

  • Quokka

    Some time ago I browsed through lernu. Well, I found it bookmark-worthy. But right now I just don't feel like I'd like to devote myself to learning Esperanto.

    The only foreign language I feel to some extend good at is English. Way back when I began learning I already liked the fact that it'd enable me to talk with people all around the globe. However, my main motivation was that there is a lot of literature concerning my hobby written in English & I wanted to read & understand it all.

    The point I am trying to make is: I think that if you want to learn a language for whatever reason (often it's not just one single purpose) start out by learning the language while you are doing what interests you the most. It didn't take a long time and I felt confident enough to have conversations.
    Note: I am not promoting input-methods. If you just watch TV or trudge through course-books without genuine interest but the believe that this is a good method it won't work & is a waste of time.

    This doesn't mean that I find Benny's approach wrong. Not at all!
    If I start learning a new language I will use that one as my goals have shifted.
    Right now I am more interested in the social aspects.
    That's actually the reason Esperanto might be interesting.

    At least I already match the profile of an Esperanto-speaking person (to some extend) ;-)
    polyglot:2.5 languages, traveller: yep, vegetarian:well, let's say I am a vegetarian up to 70% of the time :-p ,Linux user & non-drinker: yup.

  • http://twitter.com/mithridates Dave MacLeod

    Right, but you did make the point above that Esperanto would be worth learning even if it didn't have a single speaker, did you not?

    Good post though, and I agree. I tailor my IAL recommendations based on what I think a person is looking for. If it's about meeting new people and traveling on a budget then definitely Esperanto. If it's a person fed up with Esperanto for some reason I may suggest Ido. Some people can't decide whether to learn French or Spanish or some other Romance language (and aren't planning on traveling anywhere soon) so to them I recommend Interlingua or Occidental. My goal above all is to make just the right recommendation that will keep a person interested in the language for the amount of time it takes to become proficient. I'm of the opinion that the real struggle for IALs isn't among each other, but against the idea that they are somehow deficient and incapable of playing the same role that 'natural' languages do, which is the real audience that counts since it numbers in the billions. The early 20th century had a lot of favorable coverage for IALs but once it began to look like English was going to fulfill the role of a world language (which it won't) it became much more cynical and sparse.

    • Veni Vidi Vici

      The only way I would devote any time to learning Esperanto is due to it’s mutual intelligibility with French, German and English.
      Do any of these constructed languages offer superior MI compared with Esperanto.

      • Trebalor

        Yeah… the best language for mutual intelligibility is interlingua, which is a pan-romanic language that is based on the most popular words in the romanic languages…. the interlingua grammar is the grammar that all romanic languages have in common.
        But it is probably harder than Esperanto, isn´t as popular as Esperanto and doesn´t teach you vocabulary from other language groups.

  • http://www.lernu.net Miĉjo

    Great article! I, too, recommend learning Esperanto first – it’s what I would have done, had I known back then. Learning French was very helpful in subsequently learning Arabic, which actually has surprising similarities with French; had I learned Esperanto before French, it would have made it considerably easier, too.

    If I may be so bold, I’d just like to add a couple of things:

    1. Esperanto is a useful tool for language learners even when one’s native language is *not* (European Indo-)European, for two reasons. One, Esperanto’s grammar is quite flexible, making it possible to pattern one’s Esperanto to a large degree and with little effort, first after one’s native language, then after other languages, all without losing any clarity. Two, Esperanto’s vocabulary tends toward maximum internationality, and if you’re targeting a European language, you’ll pick up a large number of roots common to many European languages before you get started on that language, making it an excellent springboard to European languages.

    2. Even if you already know several languages, I believe Esperanto to be a useful language-learning tool. I find that learning Esperanto after French, Arabic and some German and Hebrew has limbered up my mind even more, especially as I try to model my Esperanto after these other languages, and even in ways you wouldn’t imagine in any of them.

    3. Another interesting Esperanto learning resource is the free, downloadable multimedia introductory course at http://www.ikurso.net .

    Ankorau dankon pri la interesega, amuza kaj pensiga artikolo de spertega lerninto de pluraj lingvoj. Mi esperas, ke pluraj leg[iao]ntoj rimarkos vian rekomendon kaj sekvos vian ekzemplon, lernonte ne nur Esperanton, sed ankaŭ aliajn lingvojn.

  • http://mavericktraveler.com El Guapo

    So I see you mention that it’s good for beginners, but what if you already speak 2 languages fluently, 2 languages more or less fluently, and 1 beginner (3 of those languages are Latin derivatives). Still worth it?

  • http://mavericktraveler.com/blog ElGuapo

    You have no idea what you're missing…

  • http://mavericktraveler.com/blog ElGuapo

    Russian has also very complicated grammar. I'm a native speaker so I don't appreciate it as much as someone learning it. Nouns must match the subject, as the verbs, etc. But verbs change forms from simple tense conjugations as well by adding different prefixes and suffixes to describe an action more specifically.

    I would never be able to teach it because I have no idea why I say the things I do.

    I'd be impressed if someone can learn it and speak pretty fluently within a short time frame.

    Also, although I've met people who learned it (by living in Moscow or being married to a Russian), I have never met anyone who can speak it with no accent. I can easily tell within the first word or two.

    • http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/ Tony Mechelynck

       Russian has complicated declensions, but less so than Latin. It has extremely simple conjugations (only one conjugated tense, plus one that varies like an adjective predicate, an imperative, and four participles). The fact that verbs go in pairs is a novelty for a Westerner, but not an insurmountable one. The alphabet is not Latin, but (if the stress location is known, which is not always obvious) the relation between spoken and written Russian is far more systematic than in English or even in French. About speaking with no accent, maybe I’m lucky in that I have a “musical ear” (and started learning my second language — Dutch — very young); but I can see how it could be a difficulty for people less lucky than I am.
      I wouldn’t say Russian is easy, and it is certainly several orders of magnitude harder to learn than Esperanto; but I’d like to learn it better, and I feel that, given the right environment, it would be possible.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    This blog is called “fluent in 3 months”, not “con fluidez en 3 meses” or “couramment en 3 mois” etc.

    It's pretty clear the premise is that it's in English. If I started writing in a random different language every week just because I could, only other polyglots would read the blog. I'm writing to people who only speak one language and want to learn more. Most of the readers are Americans, or at least understand English so writing posts like this in anything but English isn't going to be at all helpful.

    Besides, this may come as a shock to you, but there is life outside of the Internet :P 95% of Internet output does not = 95% of the actual output in my life.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Nedankinde!! :)

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    As I said in the post, the argument here was to use Esperanto as a bridge to get over the discomfort in speaking. This post focused on that one aspect of Esperanto.

    However, there are plenty of other reasons to learn it, as shown in the last part. I learned Esperanto as my 7th language, and I still found it very useful due to the social aspects of the meetings and the fun in getting an extra language “for free” for very little work. I'd still recommend you give it a try – if you have already learned Latin languages you will master it in no time.

    It's up to you if you think it's worth it! You can look at the videos I linked to and see why I was happy to learn it myself! :)

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Dankon Miĉjo!!! :) Ankaŭ mi esperas ;)

  • http://www.umitorhan.com/ Umit Orhan

    My story with Esperanto began when i was in high school. I was just trying to learn English(the hardest one since it was the first) and at first when i discovered about Esperanto I was amazed! It was such a brilliant idea!.. I put some efforts to learn it, try to speak it with other Esperantists, but since my efforts was very low, soon i gave up learning it.
    But still i do remember lots of things from Esperanto, and i can surprise the people who speaks it by simply speaking a couple of sentences.
    It is really easy, and i will finish that incomplete task of my life sometime in the future.
    Great post dear Irish Polygot! I love this blog so much… Thank you for blogging…
    All the Best.

  • http://www.adventurerob.com AdventureRob

    Seems to be a lot of people disagreeing here, but I can see the point, in fact I want to try Esperanto now :-) It's almost like an underground language.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Glad to see you are rebelling against the status quo ;)

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the Irish polyglot

    Thanks so much for your comment!! That kind of positivity is the power that motivates me to continue writing :)
    Great to see your own Esperanto story!

  • David

    I'm sorry if you took it badly, I did not mean to imply that 95% of your output was in English. I've read your methods, and I like them a lot! (hence why I'm here). And I did do a similar “mission” that you did for the two foreign languages that I speak the best (French in Lyon, Spanish in the USA), and I'm working on my Italian and Russian and planning similar cheap trips in the near future. However, I hope to one day travel to Korea, China, Japan, India, Greece, Portugal, Russia, Austria, Italy… so many places and I intend on speaking 6 total languages (ish, its a rough goal). It's not only not practical, but I'd say it would be impossible for me to keep up my demanding studies/job in medicine , plus be able to keep all the languages to a fluent level.
    When I visited Germany for two weeks, I stayed with French friends. I learned basic German phrases to use, but most of my interaction was with the French: so I spoke French! I avoided speaking English when I was with Germans though, and tried German, and my French friends were so annoyed with this, they even started speaking English with German waiters and ticket salesmen to prove to me that “c'est juste mieux si tu parles anglais ici”. I think the fact that you don't speak the language shouldn't mean you shouldn't visit the beautiful country, and that you should try to interact with the people in English. I believe that while its less than the ideal, you can still have a fantastic trip and see the beautiful country (all countries are beautiful, nature always astounds me, as do peoples unending generosity. I love traveling).

    sorry for the long post, but I don't like it when people say that I should limit my explorations of the world based on my time/intellectual capacity to learn the languages. I'll always try to learn as much as I can in the foreign language, but when push comes to shove I can't have good conversation in Korean from visiting Seoul for two weeks.

    Good luck on your C3 test!!!

    • http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/ Tony Mechelynck

       In all the countries you mention (even Korea) and in a lot of others, there are many people who speak Esperanto (I know some who learnt it in Uzbekistan). Finding them is easy, with the Yearbook of the Universal Esperanto Association or the Pasporta Servo (a service built on the same idea as CouchSurfing, but long before the latter even existed, and which used a paper yearbook before the Internet existed).

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/FluentCzech FluentCzech

    I agree with you that some parts of Esperanto are hard. I spent an hour a day for two months learning Esperanto, and the only easy part is learning the grammar (there are only a few rules to learn so it takes just a few days to learn them).

    What isn't easy is learning the vocabulary. It is just as hard as with any language since there are thousands of words to learn. Having said that, you can start to speak with Esperanto even when you have a very limited vocabulary, since even when you do not know a word you can often construct (i.e. invent) one.

    Rather than mock you for not knowing a word, many Esperanto speakers will congratulate you on your inventiveness when you work around this and create words of your own. This brings me to a real advantage of the Esperanto community: they are used to hearing newcomers struggle since there are very few native Esperanto speakers so almost everybody who speaks Esperanto has gone through the same process. As a result they tend to be far more forgiving of mistakes and much more encouraging and helpful than you often find with native speakers of other languages.

    Having said all that, I stopped learning Esperanto after two months because I felt I had learned what it was all about, and appreciated its grammar and the kindness of the community, but wanted to spend that hour a day on other things. Overall, it was 50 hours well spend, but that was enough for me.

  • Bill Chapman

    Sorry, Juddski. My experience of travelling is that English simply does not do the job. I've been lost in Bulgaria and in rural Italy and failed to find an English speaker to help me out. Of course, there are successful learners of English (notably in the Netherlands and Scandinavia) but many – even most – learners do not succeed.

    Of course you can't expect to bump into Esperanto speakers without a bit of planning, although I've had a few chance encounters.

  • russ

    Certainly Esperanto is not easy – learning any language takes work. If you like, say that it is not easier than other languages, but rather it is much less difficult than other languages. Depending on your motivation, learning techniques, and talent, it might still take a while to learn – but you'd learn it quicker than you'd learn German or Polish or whatever.

    Despite having studied various other languages and lived in a couple of foreign countries, Esperanto's the only language I became competent and fluent in as an adult.

    But I also see various ways that Esperanto has indeed given me concrete vocabulary and grammatical concepts that help me learn other languages. The experience of getting fluent in another language was very inspiring, after believing for years that I never could.

  • http://amikeco.ru Slawik

    Sometimes I feel like Russian cannot ever be learnt to a „near native“ level :)
    Most often there's no need for that, of course.

  • Shane

    Very interesting Benny, thanks!

  • http://lingomatch.com Andrew Playford

    Hi Benny. The first I had heard of Esperanto was when people starting emailing me and asking for it to be inserted as a language option in our drop down on http://lingomatch.com. It is now there so if anyone wants to meet up for real and practice talking, you are good to go at LingoMatch!

  • Steve K

    Love the blog, and find this post about Esperanto interesting. Some time back when I considered learning it, this site http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/ranto/ put me off it. I'd be interested in knowing your take on it. It strikes me that Esperanto speakers from the same language group would be able to understand each other quite well, but others maybe not so.

    Anyway, good blog.

  • russ

    Are you talking about literally understanding speech, in the sense of phonetically distinguishing the words someone is saying? My experience is that there can indeed occasionally be difficulty understanding the speech of people from other language groups if their Esperanto is too dominated by the accent of their first language – the same as happens with ANY language, whether English, Polish, whatever, not just Esperanto, of course! If someone hasn't learned a language well, speaks carelessly, mumbles, mispronounces the vowels and consonants according to the rules of their first language instead of the target language, etc, then no language can solve that problem.

    If you mean higher level semantic confusion, e.g. due to different grammatical constructs, different active vocabularies, confusing use of “false friends”, etc, I haven't found that to be a problem in Esperanto. I normally have no problem understanding what someone from another language group means, given that I literally understand the literal words they are saying (or am reading text written by someone from another language group). E.g. my first language is English, and I have spent a lot of time in conversation with Esperantists whose first language is Polish, German, French, etc, and a lot more time reading and emailing with them. Sure, there are national variations in expressions people use (e.g. a Russian recently told me that Russian Esperantists tend to say “Estu sana” after someone sneezes, whereas most of the time I'm used to hearing “Sanon”), but such regional/cultural/idiom differences obviously don't cause problems.

    As for the ranto page – in my opinion, it exaggerates a lot of problems, and presents a lot of subjective preferences or judgment calls about elegance etc. It also points out some justifiable complaints about Esperanto, or complaints I'd agree with (e.g. I dislike the -in suffix and lack of a sex-neutral 3rd person singular pronoun) – but so what? There's no such thing as a perfect language, and despite its flaws, Esperanto has fewer flaws, and it is WAY easier to learn than national languages (I can say with confidence, having tried learning quite a few others, and succeeding only with Esperanto), and it works fine as a real language. I use it every day, including with people from other language groups.

    • Math Bear

      The “false friends” problem varies from language to language. The two languages with the largest number of “false friends” with Esperanto are English and Brazillian Portuguese.

  • Steve K

    I agree about the ranto page exaggerating some problems with Esperanto.

    As for my own take on it, I was thinking about pronunciation more than anything else. Where pronunciation of certain constructs are not prescriptive, then people who come from different language groups will presumably use their own native pronunciation. Having said that, I say presumably because I don't know anybody who actually speaks Esperanto.

    What I do know is that the ranto pages put me right off something that I thought was a great idea, and now, thanks to this blog I'm thinking again :-)

    • http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/ Tony Mechelynck

       IIUC, the pronunciation of Esperanto is prescriptive, with very few exceptions.
      a [a], b [b], c [ʦ], ĉ [ʧ], d [d], e [ɛ / e], f [f]
      g [ɡ], ĝ [ʤ], h [h], ĥ [x], i [i], j [j], ĵ [ʒ]
      k [k], l [l], m [m], n [n], ng [ŋɡ], o [o / ɔ], p [p], r [r]
      s [s], ŝ [ʃ], t [t], u [u], ŭ [w], v [v], z [z]
      The range of free variation for e, o, or even between Spanish and French [r], is never an obstacle to comprehension; even strong English, French, Russian or Japanese accents (which are among the most marked), if they may elicit some smiles, are not an obstacle after very little getting used to.

    • Math Bear

      Pronunciation has improved a great deal in recent years. French speakers are finally properly rolling there “r”s and English speakers are better about keeping their vowels pure.

  • http://www.lernu.net Miĉjo

    Mr. Rye (author of the ranto) makes a few valid points, but for the most part, I find his comments exaggerated, inaccurate or irrelevant. It's a straw-man: Esperanto never claimed to be perfect, only to work as a (relatively) easy-to-learn language within reach of everyone without sacrificing expressiveness, which it does.

    An interesting read is this brief review of the ranto by the late Claude Piron, former U.N. translator and professor of psychology, well-known Esperantist (in Esperanto circles, anyway :-)), and writer in and about Esperanto:

    http://claudepiron.free.fr/articlesenanglais/wh

  • Douglas

    Hey Benny! I love your blog, bro! :D

    So, I also learn Esperanto, but have you ever tried to learn Interlingua? I started to learn it few months ago…and it is very interesting.

    Then, that is it! Good luck there!
    Até mais! Abraço!

    • Math Bear

      Interlingua is fascinating.It is readily intelligible to any educated Romance speaker or educated English speaker who knows some Latin. But Interlingua achieves this naturalness by being highly irregular. It is far from easy to learn how to speak or write it, especially if you don’t know a Romance language or Latin at all. I think Interlingua would work well as an interlanguage for Romance speakers. But I think mediaval Latin would work well too and would not be much harder to learn for a Romance speaker. I hear it takes about 6 months of study.

  • http://twitter.com/Mneiae Caroline L

    I've often thought this about Esperanto. I've studied French and Spanish and continue to do so in college. I grew up as a Vietnamese-American. Latin was the very first language that I studied.

    After trying to tackle Mandarin, though, I've realized that Romance languages get you nowhere when you want to learn something that is totally unrelated. Esperanto is a great choice if you want to learn Western Hemisphere languages, but it's not a good choice for everything.

    I admit freely that I'm biased, as Mandarin is the only language with which I've had serious problems or to which I've had to devote effort. It came in handy when I went to Beijing, but I'm glad that Google's new Goggles thing has gotten us one step closer to Douglas Adam's babble fish.

    • http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/ Tony Mechelynck

       Claude Piron, who knows much more about Mandarin than I do since he used to be a translator of Chinese for the WHO, argues that the deep structure of Esperanto is akin to that of Mandarin: in both, word roots don’t change; and it is usually possible to translate word-for-word from Mandarin into Esperanto without sounding contrived. I’m not sure how much of a help Esperanto can be for learning Mandarin, but he makes it sound like Esperanto can be a great language help if the only language you know is Mandarin. The article is somewhere on http://claudepiron.free.fr/ but I don’t have the exact URL at the moment.

      • Math Bear

        There is a lot of Esperanto activity in China, much of which is sponsored by the government. The Chinese do not find Esperanto difficult to learn. I notice that word formation is very similar and highly regular in Mandarin as in Chinese. Keep in mind that for Asians, Esperanto is extremely useful if they ever want to learn a European language, which is usually the case. I hear Esperanto is starting to catch on in Vietnam too.

  • http://twitter.com/Zentaurus Héctor Palma Téllez

    Sólo por éste post ahora empecé a estudiar Esperanto, para ello dejé de lado el serbio y el croata que comencé hace no tanto rato. Llevo menos de una semana en el Esperanto y ya creo que me servirá. Mucho más he aprendido del Esperanto de lo que aprendí del croata y el serbio antes.
    Espero pronto dominar un par de idiomas más… por lo bajo. Como dices en otro de tus posts, no se comienza de cero y creo que en varios idiomas ya empiezo de uno (o dos en otros) a pesar de que sólo se me inculcó el inglés en el sistema educacional local.

    Confieso que es como la cuarta vez que me meto a leer acá comentarios y partes del post mismo y sólo ahora me animé a comentar yo :D

    Bueno, un saludo desde Chile y, en serio, ¡muchas gracias por escribir cosas como esto! :D

  • Brian_Barker

    I don't think it makes sense to have lots of international languages.

    • Michael Jones

      old joke: “The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.”

  • Valdas Banaitis

    Hey, Benny!
    Neither easiness nor spreadedness. Esperanto is just a European pidgin, naturally reinvented by a genius infant, and that is why it survived. It was a childish discovery of universal grammar based on the mirror neurons system. Read about Nicaraguan Sign Language anfd the conclusion of Judy Kegl-Shepard, and about origin of language in extreme situations, and this is the way to language.
    Valdas, the Lithuan polyglot

    • http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/ Tony Mechelynck

       When Zamenhof published «The International Language» (in 5 languages), he wasn’t an «infant» anymore, but a Doctor of Medicine, and the language project had been developed over many years, with two «beta milestones» (known only much later to the public), starting when he was in high school.

      Esperanto is not «just» a European pidgin. According to Claude Piron, a former Chinese-French translator for the WHO, who later became a university teacher of psychology in Switzerland, the superficial layer (choice of word roots etc.) of Esperanto is Indo-European (maybe 70% Romance, 60% Germanic, 50% Slavic; the total is well over 100% because of the many words roots common to two or three of these), its medium layer (word formation etc.) is agglutinative (think Hungarian, Finnish, Turkish, Tatar, etc.) but the deep structure, which really defines what the language is, is akin to that of Chinese. (Claude PIRON, ‘Esperanto: European or Asiatic language?’, about 35 pp. depending on language, out of print in French and Esperanto, available in Dutch http://katalogo.uea.org/katalogo.php?inf=1230 )

      Maybe Esperanto mirrors the structure of the nervous system, I don’t know the latter well enough to tell; but if it does, that would make it wonderfully easy. One thing I do know, and it can be ascertained by just looking at all that’s been published (in both original and translation), is that Esperanto is no less expressive that any other human language.

      About spreadedness: Esperanto is spoken on all continents, and I would venture that its world coverage (the set of places near where someone speaking it can be found) is far better than that of English.

      See also Ivo Lapenna’s address to the Program Commission of UNESCO, 4-dec-1954:  original in French; published in Esperanto translation in “Esperanto”, feb. 1955 issue, then reprinted in Carlo MINNAJA (red.), ‘Eseoj memore al Ivo Lapenna’, Denmark, © http://www.kehlet.com, under the auspices of Internacia Instituto Ivo Lapenna, p.367.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Penelope-Vos/100002563606794 Penelope Vos

         As a native English speaker, your use of the phrase “easiness and spreadedness” (instead of “ease and spread”) marks you as a language learner.

        It’s not fair that it makes you look inferior, since you know more languages than most of us, but still- that’s how it is.

        Were you to be speaking Esperanto, intelligent extrapolation would result in correct speech and you would appear as masterful as you deserve.

        This is the problem of English as a lingua franca : massive investment and you still look second-rate.

        Esperanto is accessible – even for those who can make no massive investment – and with dignity.

        Sorry Benny, for the off-topic post. I know that this is supposed to be about Esperanto as a hack for other language learning, which has been so effective in my experience as a language teacher that I recommend it as the first foreign language for primary school kids everywhere.

      • Math Bear

        You are not really thinking “pidgen” which is a poorly defined make shift language to communicate across language barriers but a “creole” which is what a pidgen becomes when it is regularized and is spoken by children as a native language. The inherent structural complexity of Esperanto has been studied and it is significantly more complex than the typical creole. It is as complex as any major European language. The ease factor of Esperanto lies in the absence of irregularities and exceptions and endless useless repitions and arbitrary irrationalities that so bedevil the student of European languages.

  • Valdas Banaitis

    The best way to learn a language is to revisit the natural one all the children have passed

  • Andy Rosenbaum

    Hi Benny!

    You may or may not remember me, but we briefly met (almost exactly) a year ago at the IJK 2009 in the Czech Republic.

    Anyway, I've just discovered your blog, and I've really enjoyed it so far. I especially like this post.

    This “language hack” applies to me, and I would like to share my story here. I started drafting a comment, and it turned out to be a bit lengthy. So, I've decided to post the whole thing on my personal blog, and include a link here. Enjoy!

    http://seekthesooth.blogspot.com/2010/07/hack-o

    ~Andy

  • Zach

    That is so ignorant it’s laughable. You don’t see websites with foreign languages because you’re doing searches in ENGLISH. Try running a search with a word that isn’t English and your mind will probably be blown. My God, talk about people making up random statistics.

  • Mike

    This really has inspired me to take on the two week Esperanto challenge. I really feel I need to get over the embarrassment of speaking. My question is: Where may I find people to practise and Skype with?

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the language hacker

      Go to Lernu.net. It has a forum and a chat room. Otherwise search in Skype per language and set it to Esperanto. There are plenty of other ways ;)

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny the language hacker

      Go to Lernu.net. It has a forum and a chat room. Otherwise search in Skype per language and set it to Esperanto. There are plenty of other ways ;)

  • Mike

    This really has inspired me to take on the two week Esperanto challenge. I really feel I need to get over the embarrassment of speaking. My question is: Where may I find people to practise and Skype with?

  • http://twitter.com/vyxle Alice

    Hurray for Esperanto! My friends and I used it as a secret language back in High School, and it will always have a special place in my heart. I also think another good language to help general Polygot-edness is Latin. Obviously you can’t find too many conversation partners, but studying it for a few years gave me an excellent base for learning other languages, and also understanding my own even better!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Henri-Masson/100001043514223 Henri Masson

    Kara Benny,
    Same kiel preskaŭ “ĉiuj homoj”, mi lernis la anglan, dum eble ĉirkaŭ ses monatoj. Kaj mi nenion povis esprimi en ĝi krom, ekzemple “The bed is in the bedroom”. Kompreneble, ne estas malbone scii tion, kvankam eblas meti liton en alia ĉambro, kaj eĉ eksterdome, ie ajn ;-)
    Pri Esperanto mi sciis junaĝe, je ĉirkaŭ mia 8a aŭ 9a jaro, sed mi eklernis ĝin nur kiam mi estis 27-jara. Post ses-monata lernado, sola, sen profesoro, mi komencis uzi ĝin praktike. Kompreneble, mi faris erarojn, sed oni malgraŭ tio komprenis min.
    Pro tio mi tre aprezas vian artikolon. Mia bedaŭro estas en tio ke tro malmulte da homoj malĝuste kaj maljuste taksas la valoron de la lingvo, pro antaŭjuĝoj, onidiroj.
    Mi supozas ke vi ŝatus malkovri la franclingvan libron de Georges Kersaudy “Langues sans frontières” (eldonejo Autrement, Parizo), en kiu li priskribas 39 lingvojn de Eŭropo, inkluzive Esperanton al kiu li dediĉas du ĉapitrojn. Li estas granda poligloto, iama internacia funkciulo, kaj li havis okazojn paroli, skribi kaj traduki en kvindeko da lingvoj de Eŭropo kaj Azio, inkluzive Esperanton.
    Mia espero estas ke vi plue kontribuos al forigo de antaŭjuĝoj pri tiu lingvo.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Henri-Masson/100001043514223 Henri Masson

    Kara Benny,

    Same kiel preskaŭ “ĉiuj homoj”, mi lernis la anglan, dum eble ĉirkaŭ ses
    monatoj. Kaj mi nenion povis esprimi en ĝi krom, ekzemple “The bed is
    in the bedroom”. Kompreneble, ne estas malbone scii tion, kvankam eblas
    meti liton en alia ĉambro, kaj eĉ eksterdome, ie ajn ;-)

    Pri Esperanto mi sciis junaĝe, je ĉirkaŭ mia 8a aŭ 9a jaro, sed mi
    eklernis ĝin nur kiam mi estis 27-jara. Post ses-monata lernado, sola,
    sen profesoro, mi komencis uzi ĝin praktike. Kompreneble, mi faris
    erarojn, sed oni malgraŭ tio komprenis min.

    Pro tio mi tre aprezas vian artikolon. Mia bedaŭro estas en tio ke tro
    malmulte da homoj malĝuste kaj maljuste taksas la valoron de la lingvo,
    pro antaŭjuĝoj, onidiroj.

    Mi supozas ke vi ŝatus malkovri la franclingvan libron de Georges
    Kersaudy “Langues sans frontières” (eldonejo Autrement, Parizo), en kiu
    li priskribas 39 lingvojn de Eŭropo, inkluzive Esperanton al kiu li
    dediĉas du ĉapitrojn. Li estas granda poligloto, iama internacia
    funkciulo, kaj li havis okazojn paroli, skribi kaj traduki en kvindeko
    da lingvoj de Eŭropo kaj Azio, inkluzive Esperanton.

    Mia espero estas ke vi plue kontribuos al forigo de antaŭjuĝoj pri tiu lingvo.

  • http://www.facebook.com/douwebeerda Douwe Beerda

    Saluton Benny Lewis, mi ŝatas vian artikolon. Eble mi havas ion kiu povas esti utila por vi ankaŭ. Estas du retpaĝoj mi faris antaŭ monato pri Esperanto. La unua estas aro de interesajn Esperantoretpaĝoj de la tuta mondo. Filmoj, podkastoj, TV, radio, libroj, ktp. Vi povas trovi ĝin al: http://www.scoop.it/t/esperanto-lingvo-de-la-mondo
    La alia estas paĝo kun iloj por lerni esperanto. Estas kolekto de libroj, kursretpaĝoj, youtube kursoj ktp. Vi povas trovi ĝin al: http://www.scoop.it/t/esperanto-lernu-la-lingvon-de-la-mondo
    Mi esperas ke la paĝoj utilas kaj plaĉas al vi kaj se vi havas aldonoj bonvolu sciigu min!

    Ĝis Douwe

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Escomu/100001842925466 Alex Escomu

    Douwe tute pravas, liaj retpagxoj estas ege utilaj. Cxu vi havas ipernition aux fejsbukon? mia fejsbuko jam vi povas scii per mia nomo en cxi komento. La sketcxa video ege placxis min. Cxu vi rajtigus min traduki tiu cxi artikolo hispanen?? mi sendus al vi kaj gluus gxin ankaux cxe ipernity kaj fejsbuko… sed eble por traduki gxin multplilingven estus bone traduki gxin esperanten… kion vi pensas?? Dankon!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Escomu/100001842925466 Alex Escomu

    Douwe tute pravas, liaj retpagxoj estas ege utilaj. Cxu vi havas ipernition aux fejsbukon? mia fejsbuko jam vi povas scii per mia nomo en cxi komento. La sketcxa video ege placxis min. Cxu vi rajtigus min traduki tiu cxi artikolo hispanen?? mi sendus al vi kaj gluus gxin ankaux cxe ipernity kaj fejsbuko… sed eble por traduki gxin multplilingven estus bone traduki gxin esperanten… kion vi pensas?? Dankon!

  • http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Brian-Barker/1004522862 Brian Barker

    Hi Benny

    I don’t know if you’re interested but the Esperanto-Asocio de Britio will have an Esperanto stand at the London Language Show at the end of October.
    If you know of any Esperanto beginners there’s a taster course on Saturday afternoon as well.
    Tickets to the show are free, but you need to book using this link http://www.thelanguageshow.co.uk/page.cfm/link=7
    Amike salutas
    Brian

  • Anonymous

    I think that most people have never heard of this language and many peoply think of it as just a hobby.

    Now that the British Government employs Esperanto translators, British Telecom uses the language for advertising and China Television broadcast in the language it has ceased to be a hobby.

    You might also like to see this positive support from the Council of Europe. http://www.goethe.de/ins/se/prj/ets/mlg/gep/enindex.htm  You can hear Esperanto spoken here as well :)

  • Vinti92

    Thanks a lot for your post! It inspired me to start learning esperanto!
    You see, I live in Russia where people who find out that I would like to start learning that language think I’m just weird. It has had an impact on my mind so I’ve been refusing from learn esperanto for months. But now I will definitely start practising! Thanks for links. 

  • Anonymous

    Hi Benny

    The European Esperanto Conference is in Galway this year. Details can be seen here http://eeu-kongreso.webnode.com//

    Salutojn de Londono Brian

  • http://twitter.com/pauxleto pauxleto

    Saluton Benny.

    Thanks so much for this post. And thanks for sticking to it even with all the controversy. Although I am pretty sure you knew the topic of  Esperanto would create some controversy. It always does! But that’s a sign that the language is alive! People keep talking about it. Some criticize it and many in favor! I have come to love Esperanto because of my love of languages, too. But the history behind it and it’s creator, Zamenhof, it’s pretty amazing! I have a recommendation for you and your readers. “The Universal Language” is a new documentary from Academy Award-nominated director Sam Green (The Weather Underground). This 30-minute film traces the history of Esperanto. You can learn about this movie here 
    http://esperantodocumentary.com/en/about-the-film  or here 
    http://www.facebook.com/EsperantoDocumentaryMultan dankon!Amike,
    Pauxleto

  • Luis Guillermo Restrepo Rivas

    Esperanto estas bonega lingvo.

  • http://twitter.com/solidstar Armando

    I have been learning Japanese and Esperanto and with just about a week in both I have noticed many similarities. Esperanto and Japanese have both simple verbs that don’t vary depending on who is acting, Japanese and Esperanto both mark the object of a sentence and Esperanto is flexible enough so you can order it like Japanese. 

    For example, “watashi wa konpyuutaa wo mimasu” means “I see a computer.” In Esperanto, you can translate almost word for word, ignoring particles: “Mi komputilon vidas”. Of course I’d assume for longer and more complex sentences it’d be a lot different, using the right particles and the right order, but in Esperanto word order is extremely flexible and often is used for subtle emphasis alone. It’s like Japanese-ordered-English but it actually makes 100% sense. 

    Of course, Esperanto won’t help you for any vocabulary, aside from the vocabulary that is already borrowed from English or Japanese words (futono = futon) so it won’t be much help. That’s the hardest part of a language, at least for me,  so Esperanto is not that useful for me in learning Japanese. Of course, if grammar is something that gives you greif, you may have a lot more luck with Esperanto than without. 

    For now, I’ve put my Japanese on hold to learn Esperanto. They’re both beautiful languages but I think Esperanto would be more useful to me. I may revisit Japanese later, as I want to achieve a JLPT N5 level some day, just to say that I did. 

    Ganbatte kudasai.

  • Tony_Mechelynck

     Well, MmeChouChou, let me tell you this: when a Japanese tries to speak English to me, I usually have to ask him three times to “repeat more slowly, please, I didn’t understand” before I can catch the gist of what he’s saying. In Esperanto I usually understand him immediately, even taking into account the fact that many Japanese don’t clearly make a difference between l and r when speaking.

    And another thing: when two people with different mother languages meet, and they know that they both know Esperanto, their conversation is always in Esperanto (unless, of course, it has to be understood by other people who don’t speak it). This is a statistical fact, but the reason is simple: after one’s mother language, Esperanto is the easiest.

    No language “as universal” as English? That seems to me to be biased by the point of view of someone who never went far from some English-speaking country, maybe even never left one. Oh, “bad English” (at the level, maybe, used by a Japanese trying to ask for directions in Moscow) is relatively easy. But English “as it is supposed to be used” is a terribly difficult language. So difficult that people on opposite sides of the Atlantic won’t even agree about it. And then, if someday you find yourself in Central Asia, you may happen to visit places where no one speaks English, French or Spanish, and where the local language is maybe a little farther from Turkish than French is from Spanish — related, but not easily inter-intelligible. Their second language may be Russian or Chinese, which I guess you don’t speak. But if you are a member in good standing of the Universal Esperanto Association, you will have its Yearbook in your pocket or purse, and that will give you addresses of Esperantists all over the world — with a good chance of finding one even in Siberia, China or Uzbekistan, and not outrageously far from wherever you’ll happen to be.

    • Math Bear

      To speak English well with something like genuine mastery takes ten years of dedicated study and few people have the time and money for this. Only in Germanic countries have I seen many people who can carry on a conversation in English outside of the tourist industry. Otherwise, English has become the common language of a small and highly priviledged elite minority, mostly in interrnational business. Esperanto is the language for everybody else.

  • Tony_Mechelynck

     After reading Armando’s reply, I’d like to point another fact: there are actually quite a number of Japanese who speak Esperanto (and usually more intelligibly than they do English), or at least that’s the impression I got from visiting Esperanto World Congresses held in Europe (they can happen on any continent, but I never went to one really far from my own). There is even a Japanese religion (well, call it a branch of Shintoism, maybe: it is called Oomoto) where Esperanto is held in high esteem since 1923 if not earlier; its mother temple is in Kameoka.

    Once I heard a Japanese say: “To us Japanese, Esperanto is not really an easy language; but it is enormously easier than any other European language.”

  • http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/ Tony Mechelynck

     :-) Hallo Ewald! Hoe zit jouw Esperanto-leren na deze tien maanden? Hopelijk, tamelijk goed, met zo’n motivatie als die waarvan ik de invloed krijg vanuit je post!

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  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny Lewis

    It has nothing to do with my site; writing with Esperanto characters requires a change to your keyboard settings or installing an application or copying and pasting.

    In most cases this is a very minor thing to do to your own computer, but when in an Internet cafe and the like it’s better to write quickly. There’s nothing wrong with using xs in Esperanto, just like in German they use an ‘e’ after vowels when they can’t write umlauts.

    • Math Bear

      You can esaily use a word processor too to change from the regular to the x cconvention and vice versa. But it does look rather scary!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erin-Burgess/100000466967992 Erin Burgess

    If the Esperanto has much in common with European languages and make it easy to learn is there a similar language is serve as a starting point for asain languages?

    • Math Bear

      No, unfortunately. But Asian languages are far more different from each other than most European languages. It would be difficult to attempt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cosmicaug August Pamplona

    What a bizarre suggestion! Actually, I had a crazy idea regarding simple vocabulary learning –which, coincidentally, also involves Esperanto– that I am going to try and seeing this suggestion makes me feel that it might possibly be less crazy and more useful than I thought.

    I am concerned with efficient recall. I know I am capable of recognizing individual words in the context of a flash card program but in normal speech being able to process each individual word & recognizing it half a second to several seconds later (after which most of a sentence, if not several sentences, is likely to have gone by*) is not enough.

    My thought on this was that part of what might hold me back in this respect was the association of words in one language with words in another language (for instance, English). That is, if I hear a word in the target language I do not nearly instantaneously associate it with the concept which it embodies; but, rather, I associate it with the native language equivalent and only then with the concept that the word embodies.

    My crazy idea was that one might be able to bypass this by building multiple associations for the foreign word one is trying to learn which are not directly linked to a given single native language.

    In my case, I’m sort of a natively bilingual in English and Spanish so one obvious approach is to built my flashcards using both of those languages (rather than sticking to just English or just Spanish). My thinking is that I can also push the approach by extending the lists to use accessory languages which I do not yet know. In my case one likely choice for an accessory language would be Italian due to being similar enough to Spanish to be easy for me to learn. The other likely choice would be Esperanto due to its reputation of being easy to learn (plus the vocabulary, which would be what would matter most here, should be particularly easy for speakers of European languages).

    My target language is Malaysian Malay (bahasa Malaysia or bahasa Melayu –depending on the politics of the day) which also enjoys a reputation for being easy to learn. So my word list pairings instead of being restricted to English-Malay would be expanded to include Spanish-Malay, Italian-Malay and Esperanto-Malay. Hopefully I’d stop there but if I couldn’t handle it I could also add Esperanto-Italian, English-Esperanto, Spanish-Esperanto, English-Italian and Spanish-Italian (though I’d rather not because if my idea stands a good chance of not being practical with 4 language pairings it’s only going to become less practical when adding additional language pairings –basically, I’d be entering the real of absurdity and greatly diminished return on investment).

    * I can barely manage not to have these buffer overflow conditions in my native languages so adding this step of translating to English has the potential to be a killer for me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gonzalezcaa Carlos Gonzalez

    I love Esperanto. It’s the language that first made me feel like learning languages would be fun and possible. I’m even on the Pasporta Servo now!

  • Ray Busch

    i purchased the program and paid for it with paypal which confirmed it was paid, but registration was not available the website read and informed me that my password was wrong when I was just now trying to established one. What gives?

  • http://www.facebook.com/j.antonio.vergara José Antonio Vergara

    Thank you for sharing so gracefully your experience with Esperanto !

    I think that our Esperanto phenomenon is just an appealing collective experiment for language awareness and language co-construction, open to everyone wanting to join it and to enjoy meeting other people from different language and cultural backgrounds.
    I’m from Chile, by the way.

    Nowadays I’m learning the main indigenous language from this part of the world (mapuzugun, the language of the mapuche people), and I want to organize an academic symposium on the revitalization process of Amerindian languages to be held in Buenos Aires july 2014, at the World Esperanto Congress.

    In fact, I think that we Esperanto users are just self conscious global citizens commited to intercultural communication on equal footing and linguistic justice.

  • http://twitter.com/LyteFM Fynn Marlin

    Nice and informative post! And although I dont think I’ll benefit that as much from esperanto as you did, I like the Idea and might learn It before tackling french.

    I’m german, learned english, spanish and latin at school – but yeah, learning esperanto in order to get used to starting over with a new language sounds good to me.

    Especially when you told about the people you meet I had to smile – right now I’m doing work and travel in australia, typing on my alternative-international keyboard using ubuntu and was just informing myself about becoming vegetarian.

    I suppose I’m gonna continue reading your blog ;-)

  • Neyane

    I forgot if I already let a comment on this article. I think about learning esperanto before japanese to make me gain time in learning japanese, but as I already speak a foreign language (english, I’m French), is it still useful? I guess, but I’m not sure…

    • Math Bear

      Try it and find out! You certainly don’t have to invest years of your life to find out. There are a lot of Japanese Esperantists too, they have a large organization over there (at least 100,000 members) and are famously hospitable to foreign Esperantists. This would be a big help in making contact with real (non-tourist industry oriented) people while you learn the language and culture.

  • Kieran Maynard

    I’m going to take the plunge! A good friend told me how learning Esperanto enabled him to go to Germany and converse with Esperanto speakers and made learning French extremely easy. I kept thinking “I’ll learn Esperanto” next… and spent two years studying Chinese. You inspired me! I’m going to learn it.

  • http://www.SingleWithKids.co.uk/ Single With Kids

    Having had enforced Latin lessons at school – and losing the will to live in learning a language that, aside the Catholic church, wasn’t spoken – I’ve given Esperanto a wide berth. I’ve since learned romance, germanic and slavic languages and do find that picking up other European languages is relatively easy as they share common ground somewhere along the way. Would Esperanto help at this stage do you think, or would it basically confirm language rules already cemented into place?

    • Math Bear

      Esperanto has mnay unusual features that add clarity to yor understanding of language in general. I would go for it.

    • Michael Jones

      old poem:
      Latin is a language, as hard as hard can be.
      First it killed the Romans, and now it’s killing me.

  • Klara

    Haha, I am happy that you say all those positive things about Esperanto ;) I am a native Esperanto speaker so I never actually had to learn it, but I´ve seen people learning it quickly. “It won’t surprise you to hear that the more languages you learn, the easier it is to learn the next one.” People often say that to me “oh, you shouldn´t have problems, you speak 6 languages already”. It´s probably true, though I don´t know for sure because learning a language as an adult is different from learning a language before the age of 12, which was the case for me for all 6 languages I speak, so as paradoxical as it may sound, I have little experience with learning a language, that is : on my own, because I have decided so.
    “Polyglots, travellers, vegetarians, Linux users, non-drinkers and many open-minded people” that is exactly my own impression as well! Funny to hear it from someone else.
    I also agree about the meetings of course. They are so much fun. People really miss out on something when they decide Esperanto is no use… But after all, I´m not very objective, Esperanto is my family. ;) Cheers!

    • Kas9987

      Hi, I was just wondering what languages you speak because knowing 6 sounds awesome. I’m fluent in two: English and Polish, and I’m learning Spanish In school. So, could to tell me what are the 6 languages you know?

  • Emily Bailey

    Now I want to learn Esperanto! It looks as though it’ll help me learn Spanish and even Mandarin later on down the road. Thanks for this article!

  • Vincent

    So Benny, you’re saying that from a communicative standpoint, if I devote two weeks to a couple months worth of Esperanto, I can pick up French for more easily? I have to believe so since French is the language I want to master and speak fluently. In many studies I’ve read, students who learned Esperanto first were able to retain the French language 50% faster. I’m blown away by this statistic. I was planning to speak French from day one starting this June, but now I realize learning Esperanto as a starting point would be beneficial for me in the long term. In the long term I want to be fluent in French, Korean, Japanese, Arabic, Russian, Spanish, and Mandarin. Wish me good luck! P.S.: I follow you on Twitter. My username is Afroparisien….

    • Math Bear

      Esperanto gets you out from behind the soft invisible walls of your native language. Most english speakers are no more aware of how much English colors their view of the world than aquarium, fish are aware of the water they swim in. It is much easier to bridge the gap to another language if you have Esperanto as a stepping stone.

  • http://fluent-language.blogspot.com/ Kayla C.

    I must admit I’m skeptical about learning Esperanto to get ahead in other languages but I might try it when I have more time. I’ve always been attracted to other languages more because they feel more “real” but after all Esperanto is used to communicate, so it’s also a language. :)

    • Math Bear

      Well, 127 years ago, “Dr. Esperanto” published his “International Language Project. It was very much an artificial constructed language. Over the generations since then it has developed into a full fledged langauge that is effectively a natural language following typical linguistic laws and possessing a distinct culture, literature, history and native speakers. The Esperanto Language of today is a far cry from the sketchy schematic language project of the 19th Century. Unfortunately, most of the propaganda both pro and con seems oblivious to this.

  • Shannon

    This blog post inspired me to start learning Esperanto. Although I’m having trouble finding people that I could connect to and practice with. How do you find more people to talk with?

  • vijay

    undoubtedely Esperanto is a graet language and its easy to learn . technically its easy

  • yomna

    How many hours should I spend learning Esperanto per day for these two weeks? any specific number?

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny Lewis

      As many hours as you can. Any number I’d give you would be wrong if you could do more.

  • Nate Anderson

    I think this phenomenon exists with many languages that are no longer spoken. For example, studying Latin for two years gave me a great edge in learning German (placed into a third year accelerated college course after two years in high school) despite the fact that these two languages are largely unrelated. The fact that Latin makes clear distinctions of many grammatical features that modern languages leave to implication, nuance or dust gives the Latin student a fairly comprehensive grasp of the way language itself works. While I don’t feel that Latin specifically has aided tremendously in my studies of Japanese or Arabic thus far, a deep understanding of linguistic mechanics is invaluable with the study of any modern language.

    • http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/ Tony Mechelynck

      Latin is usually taught grammar-first: with its six cases (five if you count the vocative as trivial) it makes the der-des-dem-den of German (with dative and ablative conflated) a breeze, especially with the German conjugations that feel much more “natural” to an English-speaker than the ones of Latin.
      OTOH, the advantage of Esperanto is that it breaks the language barrier: its lack of exceptions, of strong verbs, of strong plurals, of irregularities of any kind, its freedom of word-building have as result that even a beginner won’t fear to express himself or herself in the language and won’t fear being ridiculous. After six years of Latin at six hours a week I never used the language fluently and still couldn’t; with Esperanto, hardly had I finished “Teach Yourself Esperanto” (in English which is not my mother language) that I wrote a letter in Esperanto to the address at the back of the book, asking for information about where to continue using the language and with whom. I got a very nice answer too.

      • http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/ Tony Mechelynck

        P.S. And if no one in your neighbourhood speaks Esperanto, get yourself a pen pal with the help of the Koresponda Servo Mondskala (i.e. Worldwide Correspondence Service), which, together with the “Pasporta Servo” (the Esperanto ancestor to CouchSurfing, dating back to decades before the Internet) make Esperanto “the” language for making friends abroad.

      • Math Bear

        Interesting point! I know of a Chinese lady linguist who was ordered by the government of China to learn Esperanto as part of their educational promotion of Esperanto (nobody outside of China seems to know why they are doing this) among the Chinese, She undertook the study of the language with a great deal of resentment. But then she was stunned to find she was significantly more fluent in Esperanto after 6 months study of Esperanto than she was in English after more than 9 years of study. Now she promotes the idea of Esperanto with condsiderable enthusiasm. I saw an interview with some Chinese students who were taking an elementary school class in Esperanto. They spoke fluently and idiomatically with excellent pronunciation.

      • Math Bear

        A big part of the problem wth Latin is the kind of Latin they insist on teaching. This is Classical Latin from the Roman Empire. It was always a rather artificial literary language that probably only well educated people could easily handle even back in those days. what people actually spoke was Vulgar Latin, the language of the people. This evolved into the Romance lannguages and into Medieval Church Latin, the actual universal language of Medieval Europe. Church Latin showed a lot of influences from Romance but was practical and straightforward and far easier to learn than the difficult and complex Classical Latin which nobody much bothered with in Medieval times. Even today, a native speaker of a Romance language can pick up Church Latin in about 6 months, half a lifetime will hardly suffice for Classical Latin! I can read simple texts in Church Latin more or less but not at all in the Classical language. In the Midle ages, clergy were taught Latin from childhood, knowing games and songs and simple stories before they started on the written form. It is obvious from written evidence that by the time they were university students they had native speaker proficciency in Latin. But in the Rennaisance, the scholars convinced everybody they were speaking bad Latin and insuisted on everybody using the complex and unweildy Classical Latin. The result was the abandoning of Church Latin and the gradual abandoning of Latin itself as most could not master the Classical Latin to a sufficient degree. There is a kind of simplified artificial blend of Latin and Romance called Interlingua that has its follwers. It is understandable in both written and spoken form to any educated speaker of a Romance language. It is much harder to use though as it incorporates all the irregularities of its compoenent languages. If Latin fanciers ever want Latin to be a viable spoken language, they need to ressurect Church Latin as a language ordinary mortals can speak. They will also need to invest a great of time and effort in keeping the language up to date, something that is done for all major European languages and of course Esperanto.

    • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny Lewis

      No, because the point is that Esperanto is incredibly easy to get very far in, within a few weeks. This is not the case for Latin at all. The whole point is to learn grammatically LESS complex languages to prepare you for the next harder one, not more complex ones first!

    • Math Bear

      Esperanto has in full measure the precision and logical rigor of the Classical languages, especially Greek which Esperanto somewhat resembles in structure. Esperanto does present some difficulties for English speakers because Esperanto is far less ambiguous than English. English speakers have to get used to clearly understanding what they intend to say before they speak Esperanto. Esperanto also has a lot more grammar than the propaganda suggests. I have two comprehensive grammars of the Esperanto language and they both run to over 700 pages. But you do not have to worry about all this on the basic level and can easily communicate after about 1 month of serious study.

  • Anj

    Wow! I would love to be able to speak Esperanto! It seems very cool and would love writing my journal using it!

  • Neyane

    Hey! ^^ I think I already commented this article before, but I’m not sure. Anyway, do you mind if I translate this article into french? I think it’s pretty well written and interesting ;)

  • http://www.neeslanguageblog.blogspot.com/ Teddy Nee

    I also learned Esperanto because it is easy. Espearnto is the easiest language that I have ever learned. And the logical concept of Esperanto grammar actually helps me to conduct better in other languages, such as English and Spanish.

  • anonymous

    I’m not gonna lie, I was on the fence about learning the language before I read this post (which is why I was googling Esperanto in the first place) but you’ve convinced me! I’ve heard it spoken and I know it’s a beautiful language to listen to so I can safely say that this post has inspired me to go out and learn it!

  • Terra Magnum Imperium

    I noticed that Esperanto has French, Spanish, German, & English characteristics.
    Is there an East Asian version of Esperanto?

    • Math Bear

      I believe so but these projects never went anywhere at all. The only languages that are truly “international” in scope are Western European major languages, the primary languages Esperanto is based on. People who are highly educated in asian countries have generally spent years studying a Western language and are comfortable with this in Esperanto. It is of unterest that the East Asian Anarchist community makes extensive use of Esperanto. Although the languages of Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese share a common, coimpletely non-Western cultural core, it is still a lot easier for them to learn Esperanto than each others languages. The Chinese government is supporting Esperanto a great deal for reasons that are a bit mysterious

      • Veni Vidi Vici

        Hmmm, interesting points Is this because unlike European Languages the East Asian languages are to different and or difficult to have their version of a common bridge construct language like Esperanto…

        • http://fluentin3months.com/ Brandon Rivington

          The man who created Esperanto in the 1880′s lived in a community where Yiddish, German, Russian, and Polish were spoken. He also was educated in English. Because of this, he made Esperanto rather euro-oriented. The goal was never to make a “bridge language” of European languages, but rather to make a language that was simple and logical to use as a neutral, international language. There have been attempts to make Asian con-langs but they have always lost out to Esperanto. In fact, China has one of the highest Esperanto-speaking populations in the world.

  • Davi Almeida

    Benny, absolutely EVERYTHING I think about this issue, you have expressed it COMPLETELY in your article here. I’ve got nothing else to say, other than, TOTALLY AGREED.

  • Daniel Romero

    plain stupid. Oh right you knew how to use the hats on Chezch language after learning Esperanto, if you had learned the hats learning Chezch language guess what….you would know how to use the hats on Chezch languake ;p

  • kamisori

    why should i spend ~100$ on some language learning package if the most important part of it is the free advise “speak from day 1″?
    Oh and thanks for the advise

  • Haider

    I am from Yemen and I am offended.

    Kidding, man, it was fun to watch that scene again.
    Esperanto is amazing, used lernu! for a week then stopped, I don’t know why, that was 4 years ago, but I remember the fun.

    I started learning french two days ago and this time I won’t stop, then I might give lernu! a visit.

    Thanks for the effort you put in this site, helped me alot

  • Robin Turner

    Benny, if you enjoyed Esperanto, you might have fun with Lojban, though for different reasons – rather than a pan-European language, it was designed to be as linguistically and culturally neutral as possible, and the grammar is based on predicate logic rather than any existing language’s grammar. In fact, according to some popular theories of language acquisition, it should be impossible to learn, but I’ve come across people who were pretty fluent in it.

    • Math Bear

      Lojban is said to especially resemble the computer language prolog. This is hardly a recommendation to use Lojban as a human language. I have heard it has 600 different grammatical rules. I rather doubt how “fluent” anybody really is also or the degree that Lojban has been designed to be used as a true human language. Interesting idea but I suspect Klingon has more possibilities. The underlying idea is not to use a language as some sort of mental toy to play with but as a tool for human communication. For that purpose Esperanto works very well.

      • Robin Turner

        You missed my point completely.

        • Michael Jones

          I think Math Bear was spot on, and I would add this: shouldn’t those who want to advance the study and use of Lojban throughout the world use Esperanto to do so? For example, just out of curiosity, how many speakers of Lojban have Russian as their native language?

  • nate

    where can i find resources to learn esperanto

    • http://fluentin3months.com/ Brandon Rivington

      A great place to start is Lernu.net. It has a bunch of courses, a great dictionary, and a widely used forum.

  • Math Bear

    There are rules of syntax but they are more flexible than in English. If something is moved to a position from its normal one it becomes emphasized. Most European languages are less rigid than English about the position of subject and object. Even Sp[anish has a special partical /a/ that marks a direct object if there is any chance of confusion. As far as expected word order goes, this varies from language to language. Celtic languages usually put the verb first and Latin, like Jaopanese usually puts it last. If you know no other language than English, it is not surprising you think subject-verb-object is some kind of language universal but I assure you it is not.

  • Math Bear

    I can switch alphabets by hitting a button at the top of my screen: ABCĈDEFGĜHĤIJĴKLMNOPRSŜTUŬVZ. That hideous mess you typed would scare anybody away from Esperanto!

  • Math Bear

    I think this person is an obvious troll trying to stir up a flame war. Could I request the editor to remove this individual?

  • Math Bear

    Will somebody please rid us of this irredemiable troll? I would like to keep the discussion on here productive……

  • Math Bear

    Dolĉa Esperanto! La bela lingvo de paco kaj amo!
    Sweet Esperanto! The beautiful language of peace and love!

  • Jan Zvoník

    Se vi serĉas aranĝi lingvo kaj estas la plej disvastigata Esperanton. Ido estas tiam esperanto, bona, sed ĝi uzas nur malmultaj personoj

    • Math Bear

      I am not so thrilled with Ido. It seems to lack the flexibility of Esperanto. I think an experiment once showed it was about twice as hard to learn as Esperanto. It’s devisers were trying way too hard to create a “perfect” language and way overdesigned it. It seems to me to be heavy and plodding, a fussy pedantic language designed by academics for academics. when Zamenhof first had a good luck at the Ido project he commented that it was “mortnaskita”, born dead. History has proven him right.

      • Michael Jones

        proverb: “The best is the enemy of the good.”

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  • Michael Jones

    In addition to the inherent advantage of learning Esperanto first, there is also the prospect of actively using it as a “shoehorn” into the target language. This would be possible if “shoehorn” materials exist for the target language. Such “shoehorn” materials would be materials in Esperanto about the target language. For English, I have started a “shoehorn” dictionary. The idea is that you look up an English word in it, and the definition is given in Esperanto – the actual definition, not merely a translation into Esperanto. I have only created a stub, and mostly use links to definitions in English in certain online dictionaries (Merriam-Webster, and Wiktionary, mostly). In a handful of cases, I have supplied definitions in Esperanto, and in any case often comment, in Esperanto, on entries in the dictionary, and provide many links, both internal and external, as well as a subject index. As the project progresses, the links to other dictionaries will be replaced by native definitions in Esperanto, but even in this present format the dictionary makes a handy one-stop-shopping experience, so to speak, for someone wanting to explore the English language. Also, the portion of the dictionary consisting of my contribution is in the public domain. The dictionary is available at:
    http://prof-vortaro-de-la-merk-angla.weebly.com/

  • Marília

    What if I’m learning my fifth language and not from scratch (I learned some basics a few years ago). Can esperanto still help me?

    • Marília

      I’m sorry, I have just found the answer in your post :)

    • Math Bear

      Yes. Carefully studying esperanto is like taking a course in General Linguistics. You need to study it to the point of basic conversational fluency but that doesnt take long. Esperanto has in full the precision and logical rigor of a classical language (especially Ancient Greek) and provides an especially good framework for iunderstanding the structure of another language.

    • Math Bear

      By removing all the pointless and useless complications Esperanto lays bare the fundamental nature of language. Esperanto actaually has a full featured and fairly complex grammar as the full language. Its structure is fairly similar to that of Ancient Greek but minus the clutter. I think it would help as you could reach advanced levels within months rather than years. It is at this level that you reach the real details and subleties. Keep in mind that Esperanto is quite different from English and reflects general European usage which can be significantly dofferent from standard English usage.

  • Lini

    Just by the way: if you are planning to study not only European languages, then Lingwa de planeta (Lidepla) is a good alternative, both in vocabulary and grammar.

    • http://fluentin3months.com/ Brandon Rivington

      I saw that you posted something on Benny’s Facebook wall yesterday as well. Are there any speakers of this language?

      • Math Bear

        Yeah, millions depending on level of required fluency. There are between 1 to 2 thousand Esperanto speaking families whose children are brought up speaking the language and are effectively native speakers of Esperanto. There are sizeable bodies of speakers in Iran, the Far East and Brazil but the true “homeland” of esperanto is Eastern Europe and it is here you would be likely to casualy run into speakers of the language. Keep in mind that the Esperanto tends to be complimentary to English, you are most likely to find it in places you would have a hard time finding somebody who speaks English. Esperanto speakers tend to offer aid and hospitality to visiting Esperantists as well. There are established oinstitutions for this.

        • http://fluentin3months.com/ Brandon Rivington

          No no, I was asking Lini about this “Lidepla” language. Thanks for giving our readers some good info though! Ĉu vi estas ankaǔ Esperantisto?

          Brandon, the Fi3M Language Encourager

          • Math Bear

            Jes, ja! Mi tute Esperantistas. Look, Esperanto was a language project 127 years ago when it was the sketchy schematic International Language project of a certain Doktoro Esperanto. The Esperanto language of today is a far cry from the original form. It has had generations of growth and development and has become a full living language and is the only constructed language project that has done so. For an international language there is simply no comparison except a national language. It took the better part of century to turn Espernato into a real language and that was with tens of thousands of often very talented people dedicating years to it. It would require comparable time and effort to develop any other project to a remotely comparable level. That hasnt stopped hundreds and hundreds of supposedly competing language projects from springing up but very few last any time at all and none are of any real significance nor can they be. It is a bit naive to think Esperanto is one of many competing possibilities when there are no competetors to Esperanto unless you take something like English. Dont be lmisled into thinking that Esperanto is the language of Zamenhofs First Book. Dont think you can describe the grammar of Esperanto in 14 rules. I have two comprehensive grammar books that both run to more than 700 pages. the most comprehensive dictionary lists 14000 word roots, I have an English book called “the Concise Encyclopedia of the Original Literature in the Esperanto Language” that also runs to 700 pages and it says nothing about the equally vast translated literature of Esperanto. Some Esperanto books have been translated into English and become commercial successes. You can get the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings in Esperanto. The world of Esperanto is a vast one. The language is actively developed by many different groups and the vocabulary kept up to date. There are distinct levels in the language, from high literary to low street talk to technical and others. The degree of development of Esperanto is comparable only to a major European language and is utterly ludicrous to campare it to something as miniscule as ludepla. Con languages can be fun to play around with but if you want to do that I would recommend Toki Pona as a particularly unusual and fun one. Esperanto doesnt really qualify as a con language any more. It is now effectively a natural one evolving by natural linguistic evolutionary processes. Nobody can dictate what esperanto is going to be. Ĉu komprenite, Ulĉjo?

          • http://fluentin3months.com/ Brandon Rivington

            Komprenite! I would really agree with you that it’s become a living language. It has more speakers than the majority of languages in the word and has more native speakers than many! Although, I know some people that would argue that Modern Hebrew is a con language that has gained more speakers ;)

            Kiam vi komencis lerni Esperanton?

            –Brandon, the Fi3M Language Encourager

          • Math Bear

            Antau pli ol tri dek jaroj.

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  • Laura Holt

    My intention was to learn Spanish first, or multiple languages at once, but your extremely informative pages have convinced me that Esperanto is first. I have too many Tabs open with pages of interesting articles from you already! I need to put these aside and get with the learning.

    I am very excited to begin this journey. At 60 years old I finally am at a point where I wanted to go back to school, or learn something new, or something to challenge myself. After long consideration it occurred to me that my favorite subject in school was French. 3 years and I maybe can remember to count to 10.

    I live in an international city and hear voices speaking many languages all the time. Finding people to practice with will be easy.

    So, very long story short, Thank You for the important information you have shared. I look forward to reading a lot more, and of course learning more languages! Exciting.

  • Michael Jones

    Your posts are lacking in linguistic and artistic sense.

  • Michael Jones

    It sounds like you’re holding a cracked mirror up to the world.