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Your ego is the reason you are not speaking the language (My 3 week video: speaking with a native)

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Yesterday, I decided to record my entire day of learning the language on camera. I was going to make it one video, but by the time I reached 9AM, I already have enough to make an important point! (Part 2 will come later this week).

The first minute is prepared script, and then I’m all on my own in front of a native, unprepared and spontaneous, via Skype.

Sound like an idiot – it’s the smartest thing you can possibly do.

One thing that separates the men from the boys in language learning is: Can you let go of your ego?

Perfectionist and elitist learners will never accept being perceived as less than geniuses the entire time, so they will never expose themselves to sounding “stupid”, as they may perceive it.

I learned a long time ago that speaking like “Tarzan” is an absolutely necessary stage to go through, so you get used to using the language in SOME way. You learn to get used to the embarrassment and get on with learning quicker.

In this video, you see me desperately trying to explain the simple sentence “I’m recording this Skype call” at first, and then later find a way to work around not knowing how to say “go out”, by saying “in the street”, rather than give up and say it in English.

I’ve seen other language learners NOT do this. They “save time” and just say what they want to say in English when they get stuck. They talk about people like me making mistakes early having to worry about “fossilization” of those mistakes – well I say right back at you. If you learn that you can always switch back to English whenever the going gets tough, then you’ll fossilize this mentality and never learn to live or think entirely through the language.

If you have a teacher, then they need to earn their money and really help you

It’s VERY slow, but since I’m paying this teacher for a private lesson, he is damn well going to earn his money and have to “put up” with me in this stage. The easiest thing by far a teacher can do is go into autopilot and follow a generic course, and talk at you. Teachers should be language facilitators – if I want to hear a monologue I’ll go to the talking-head videos all over Youtube.

(More on where I’m getting these private teachers, and how I’m not actually spending that much money, coming in a post soon enough)

I’ve tested out a few teachers, and if some are not patient and butt in after a few seconds of hesitation with “just say what you what to say in English”, then after that class I dump them unceremoniously. The rules are different when you are socialising in the language, but any moment I speak English with a teacher is a complete and utter waste of my language learning time.

In my view, they are simply a BAD TEACHER if they don’t encourage exclusive use of the target language. (When I was an English teacher, even when I was in Spain sitting my C2 diploma in Spanish, I didn’t speak anything but English with my students).

Now, I absolutely refuse to speak English when I’m getting a language lesson, because I am learning how to find a way to get my point across in Arabic, so that later I can handle situations where the other person does not speak any English, which is the point of this exercise in the first place: To use the language with non-teachers, actually within Egypt, asap.

How I made the transition to using 100% target language in my spoken sessions

Speak from day 1, make mistakes and focus on communication. It’s what I’ve been saying from the very start.

But it’s HARD to start this. NOT because of all the academic reasons of lack of vocabulary and grammar, but because you need to be cool with the fact that you are not going to know the simplest of words.

My first two weeks were less than efficient with regards speaking goals, because I was reading some Arabic in my classes or even let some of my test teachers just talk at me about how Arabic works (again – waste of money; if the teacher is doing all the talking, then save some money and listen to a podcast; you don’t even need to be present and pay by the hour).

It’s not like I passed some threshold of having enough words to get started speaking (I’m still referring frantically to a puny dictionary in my phrasebook (in French) a lot of the time). What happened was that one day I just decided that I was going to stop with the bullshit excuses and quit using so much goddamn English in my lessons. It was a transition of using 90% Arabic one day, and then 100% the next.

I now literally say nothing in English any more. The teacher still says some (to clarify what I mean, or explain themselves), but I hope to make both ends of the conversation just in Arabic within a few weeks.

It’s like pulling teeth sometimes, but it works. I’m exhausted after the hour long sessions, and my ego is shot (definitely not a great start to the day, but no pain no gain), but in the last week I’m making much greater progress! I’m ultimately hoping to record my one month video entirely spontaneously with a native, which is why this 3 week video was transitioning out of using scripts.

To give you a better look at how this mentality works, here is what I was thinking after each session. I write regularly about this on my Facebook page, so don’t forget to like it to see such regular updates not on the blog! The following are copies from those status updates.

Day 14

Brain MELTING.

Just had my first Skype call where 90% of the call was in Arabic.

I was only being asked basic questions, like where I’m from, and “what’s this number?” but I was thinking so hard that I’m exhausted now after the session!

That one hour of forced use of the language was a very uncomfortable and quite an unpleasant experience, but if you put your ego aside for a little and are willing to feel stupid and say silly things (I kept calling my female teacher a man and used understandable but really wrong sentences like “I am Brazil now”) then you can make huge strides in progress.

No pain, no gain.

Day 16

I’m only 16 days into learning this language, but I’ve made the important transition that I speak NO ENGLISH AT ALL during my Skype sessions in Arabic.

My teachers are still using some English for clarification for what I mean, or when I say I don’t understand what they are saying, and I have to flick through my pathetic tiny and pretty useless dictionary a LOT, but so far I’ve had 3 sessions where I have kept this up!

Hopefully in a few weeks they won’t need to use English at all, and can explain what I don’t understand using other words I know in Arabic.

And if you say this is because I’m talented, I’ll have to punch you in the eyebrow. I’m working my ass off, and feel depleted, stupid and exhausted. HARD WORK and willingness to not float through a lesson on a lazy cloud with your teacher doing all the work, are what makes this possible.

When you speak in English (or your mother tongue), you are wasting your time in a language lesson as far as I’m concerned. Grow a pair, swallow your pride and sound like an idiot – it’s the smartest thing you can possibly do.

Day 21

Currently rendering my 3-week point video. 21 days into learning the language, and you continue to see my incremental changes…

At the request of many people, you will continue to see me sweat and struggle, but this time… trying to communicate with a human being over Skype!!

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Apparently a “smart language learner” can’t come across as looking dumb. As I’ve said before, sounding stupid is the SMARTEST thing you can possibly do in language learning, and clutching on to your ego for fear of people thinking you sound foolish, is in itself incredibly foolish.

If I can put a humiliating video of myself online at my three week point for the world to see and make fun of… then surely you can go up to ONE PERSON and be embarrassed at your weaknesses in the language, work around not knowing the word rather than giving up and saying it in English, and having a slow conversation at first? Come on! :)

Struggle, sweat and sound like Tarzan. It’s only temporary, and if you go through this rough stage intensively, you’ll get out to the other side in no time ;)

Who’s with me?

http://www.fluentin3months.com/esl-teachers-learning/

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  • http://www.eleanorgoold.com/ Eleanor Goold

    Hi,
    This is really inspiring. Actually seeing you struggle at times (sorry) makes me feel better with my efforts. As you rightly say, unless you try and speak the language, then what is the point. My husband is an English teacher and will speak nothing but English to his students. I am learning Hungarian and am beginning to believe, albeit slowly that it is not completely impossible :-)

  • http://howlearnspanish.com/ Andrew

    Excellent work, I just tweeted this telling people “look at this guy, he sucks, he’s reading from a phrase book, it doesn’t matter!” meaning it doesn’t matter how much you suck, you improve the most when you’re like this, by this I mean really struggling and just barely holding on. I’ve been learning this recently as I take my Spanish to the next level by watching BBC Mundo news videos with a native speaker language partner on skype (we watch a video in Spanish, then one in English, then Spanish, etc.), specifically the “En 1 Minuto” videos where they cover a shitton of news as fast as they can in about 1 minute: they talk very rapidly and it’s really difficult to distinguish words you’re not already extremely familiar with. I’ve improved more from doing this the past few days than I have in the last month or so of everything else I’ve been playing around with.

    Good work, keep us posted!

    Cheers,
    Andrew

  • Belal

    Superfun to see you make this progress and it’s really inspiring to hear you trying to speak all the time and refusing to give up.
    Just wanted to offer an advice. It’s been 3 weeks into the project and I still haven’t heard you say the letter ع’ayn’ even once. Remember that it’s not like alif at all. Search youtube for tutorials to say this letter as it can be quite complicated to get the jist of it. It’s sort of like trying to strangle yourself without using anything other than your throat. You push the throat walls together. I am a native arab so this has come naturally for me but it’s unusual for foreigners. It’s not hard once you know the basic mechanics though.

    You are a big inspiration for me now that I am learning Bulgarian. I started almost the same day as you did for your Arabic mission so I am looking forward to see if I can keep up with your pace :)

    • Jacob

      If he needs help with ع he should go to Wikipedia and keep listening to the audio file which shows how to pronounce “Iraq” in Arabic.

  • http://www.abreathofforeignair.com/ Sally Bucey

    I’m with you. Please don’t punch me in the eyebrow.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ahmad.gad Ahmad M. Gad

    Hi Benny, once again, your passion, enthusiasm, and strength of will are really impressive and inspiring :)
    I left a message on the session, and I’d really appreciate your feedback.
    Ahmad

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1849158385 Kellar Alsup

    This post really hit home with me. You are 100% right about using your target language as exclusively as you can. Now I must remember that I can not fall back on English anymore! Thanks Benny!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000704616791 Edmund Yong

    I had a happy time laughing my own mistake with my friend.

  • SusannaZaraysky

    I’m all for speaking Arabic like Tarzan at the start. That’s exactly how I am in Arabic!

  • http://www.facebook.com/danieldianprasatyo Daniel Prasatyo

    I believe that “letting go your ego” is the hardest thing to do. I am a language teacher myself, Indonesian language, and it is frustrating to see language learners who give up and don’t surrender to the language the way you do. I bet you’ll be speaking like the natives in no time.

  • Greg

    Hey Benny, this is really inspiring me to get off my butt as I’m currently living abroad trying to learn German in Germany! I’ve found that sometimes I’m super good at speaking the language with others, and others I fail miserably (depending on my mood, the other’s accent and tone, and how much I understand the other person). I’m sure your experiences are similar. Definitely looking forward to the post about finding teachers. Bis bald!

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny Lewis

    Unfortunately, I have to control the direction the conversation goes in, as well as keep it in the language. I need to find teachers who can be more imaginative with the conversation – I had some in Chinese that helped me talk more comfortably for an hour, but so far all my Egyptian teachers stop every five minutes and say “So…. what do you want to talk about now?” which I find infuriating, as I would hope they would help me and lead the conversation more in this stage.

    Before classes, I study vocabulary. I do have a grammar Anki deck, but that’s for later in the day when I don’t have a looming spoken lesson, as I consider that more long-term improvement than to give my short-term gains.

    • Luz Blanca Ramos Martinez

      I also have had to control the direction of my conversations, as well as keep them in the target language, for all of the languages I have learned. It can be a challenge and, frankly, with some teachers who just can’t keep a conversational flow going or try to slip in some free English practice for themselves, I just cut and move on. It’s easier and much less frustrating that way.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny Lewis

    I looked a LOT and didn’t find a single dictionary (in Ireland from English, in Belgium from French or in Brazil from Portuguese) that would be useful to me.

    I’m learning Egyptian dialect, not standard Arabic. Vocabulary is quite different in many cases, making the latter less than helpful.

    I haven’t looked for an online Egyptian Arabic dictionary yet, but I’d move to it in a flash over the very limited phrasebook one if I could.

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny Lewis

    I have no idea what you’re talking about. Sounding not-eloquent is simply necessary, I never said I was “castigating” myself for making mistakes. I thought the dozens of posts I’ve written on this topic makes it clear that mistakes are an unavoidable part of the language learning process.

    I treat myself to nights out with Brazilians, so don’t worry, I’m kind to myself!

  • http://joyslivingabroad.com/ Joy

    Ah! You’re right. This is my biggest problem while I’m learning Chinese. Thank you for the inspiration. :-)

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny Lewis

    Great job in Spanish!! :) Best of luck with Turkish, you’ll have a blast!

  • Chris Ford

    Nice video. Also, this probably wasn’t your intention, but your fancy skype setup has inspired me to look for ways to make my own skype exchanges better – I’m going to set up one of the mics I use for music recording and get a decent webcam to replace my garbage built-in one. I’d always thought that web exchanges were just inherently far inferior to in-person ones, but now that I think about it I should be able to get a much better experience without spending much money.

    Thanks!

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny Lewis

    Please read/watch the mission intro: http://fi3m.com/arabic-mission/ to see the explanation.
    Also, I never claimed to reach fluency in Chinese in 3 months. I was aiming for it and got short. Once again I explained this in the link above. Please keep comments relevant to the post in question in future.

    Also, your logic is flawed. You seem to have randomly assigned some number of words as your “basic fluency” definition. Definitely read this: http://fi3m.com/how-many-words/

    No superhuman capabilities are required. Just lots of hard work. I barely passed languages in school so I do not have these superhuman capabilities.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sofie.esther Sofie Clara Esther

    This is a huge problem for me. I am very shy when it comes to talking in a foreign language, not just because it is embarrassing to make mistakes, but because I have a horrible accent and it is so difficult to take a sentence in English and verbally say it in another language. I am great at reading German, and writing it is not a problem for me either. Even understanding spoken German isn’t super hard. It’s SPEAKING it. My accent is just so bad, and I can’t say what I want to (even though I could easily write it down!) Very frustrating. :(

  • http://www.fluentin3months.com/ Benny Lewis

    Thanks for this link Simon. The comment got caught up in the spam queue, but I came across it separately and it’s been a huge help!

  • Luz Blanca Ramos Martinez

    I agree. If you are paying for a language lesson not in your native language (mine is English), then the whole lesson needs to be in the target language. If I find that the teacher is either not listening to me and typing emails or doing something else not related to the lesson or texting on their phone with their friends or talking at me, I cut them off. No more lessons. I can find better teachers than that. I like to do the Skype calls without video because it helps me with my listening skills and that’s good. But it is very obvious when a teacher doesn’t want to teach you or just wants to get some free (or, in this case, me paying them!!!) English practice in. No way!

  • http://twitter.com/toomanysophies Sophie Cameron

    Your posts are awesome, since reading your blog I’m getting much better at persevering in speaking my target languages when people reply in English, and have made lots of progress… but often I find people just won’t take the hint! I live in Barcelona and here a lot of people (though obviously not all of them) seem to think that Anglophones are walking textbooks whose duty it is to help them reach the holy grail of the Advanced Certificate. If I point out (nicely, of course!) that one of the reasons I’m here is to improve my Spanish and Catalan and that I need to practise, they moan about how it’s so much more important for them to learn English and that English speakers “don’t need” other languages (though as I work here, I really do!). I get where they’re coming from but it’s a bit discouraging. Does anyone else have this problem or is there some sign saying ‘free English lessons’ above my head?!